Curious: Did F9 Pilots fall for the trap?
06-29-2011 | 07:49 PM
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They were sold to some outfit in eastern Europe. Financing fell thru on the buyers side. Cheaper to fly the 4 than having them sit on the ramp looking pretty.
06-29-2011 | 08:09 PM
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Air Baltic was to get 3-4 of them... but they were re-leased to Skyservice in Toronto after the original deal went bad.
Yes, airplanes have to fly to generate revenue. What kills me is Bedford and Heller said it was too expensive to do proving runs to adopt the Q's to the RAH certificate for 11 planes. Then 7-8 months later they do it for 4 planes because they learned they couldn't do Aspen in an Ejet... that's funny.
Yes, airplanes have to fly to generate revenue. What kills me is Bedford and Heller said it was too expensive to do proving runs to adopt the Q's to the RAH certificate for 11 planes. Then 7-8 months later they do it for 4 planes because they learned they couldn't do Aspen in an Ejet... that's funny.
06-30-2011 | 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
Then 7-8 months later they do it for 4 planes because they learned they couldn't do Aspen in an Ejet... that's funny.
Until they learned first-hand (ie. $$$) that E-Jets were not the airplane for ASE because of performance.
06-30-2011 | 05:48 AM
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I know for a fact that some in Republic Airlines management told senior RJET management the E-Jets were *not* the airplane for ASE because of performance...but Bedford/Heller decided to go that route anyway.
Until they learned first-hand (ie. $$$) that E-Jets were not the airplane for ASE because of performance.
Until they learned first-hand (ie. $$$) that E-Jets were not the airplane for ASE because of performance.
06-30-2011 | 07:59 AM
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I know for a fact that some in Republic Airlines management told senior RJET management the E-Jets were *not* the airplane for ASE because of performance...but Bedford/Heller decided to go that route anyway.
Until they learned first-hand (ie. $$$) that E-Jets were not the airplane for ASE because of performance.
Until they learned first-hand (ie. $$$) that E-Jets were not the airplane for ASE because of performance.
06-30-2011 | 09:06 AM
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I didn't think RAH has done ASE before... Air Wisky did in the BAe 146 for a long time. I flew with an ex Wisky pilot who said they could do the circle as a B when light, and that the engine out procedure was nearly a non event with a 4 engine airplane. Sounded like a great airplane for the job.
06-30-2011 | 12:17 PM
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Prior obligations that, like most things, they thought they could get out of. If they had kept all 11 then they'd would have just 11 Qs they were paying an arm and a leg for instead of the 4. Any program that small is too small. They either need to increase it's size or drop it all together.
06-30-2011 | 01:15 PM
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car ramrod,
With all due respect, the real career killer for FAPA pilots is not a handful of RAH guys that might trickle over after the 7 year fence is up, it's the fact F9 is the weakest link in Denver between Southwest and United. It's the fact that F9 is being run by a ruthless REGIONAL AIRLINE management team that is quickly proving it has no idea how to turn a profit. It's the fact that F9's product is getting a bad reputation for lack of consistency. It's the fact that your biggest competitor in MKE is Southwest. I guess the list can go on and on as to what your real career killer is. But it's kind of pointless to worry about a stampede of extremely disgruntled RAH pilots coming over to the bus in 7 years, even if you still are in business at that point. I imagine that a huge majority of those guys that you all are so worried about, are going to take the next job offer possible.
None the less, I wish you all the best of luck in the future! You all deserve better than this.
With all due respect, the real career killer for FAPA pilots is not a handful of RAH guys that might trickle over after the 7 year fence is up, it's the fact F9 is the weakest link in Denver between Southwest and United. It's the fact that F9 is being run by a ruthless REGIONAL AIRLINE management team that is quickly proving it has no idea how to turn a profit. It's the fact that F9's product is getting a bad reputation for lack of consistency. It's the fact that your biggest competitor in MKE is Southwest. I guess the list can go on and on as to what your real career killer is. But it's kind of pointless to worry about a stampede of extremely disgruntled RAH pilots coming over to the bus in 7 years, even if you still are in business at that point. I imagine that a huge majority of those guys that you all are so worried about, are going to take the next job offer possible.
None the less, I wish you all the best of luck in the future! You all deserve better than this.
06-30-2011 | 05:01 PM
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I didn't think RAH has done ASE before... Air Wisky did in the BAe 146 for a long time. I flew with an ex Wisky pilot who said they could do the circle as a B when light, and that the engine out procedure was nearly a non event with a 4 engine airplane. Sounded like a great airplane for the job.
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