DTW Roadshow
06-03-2012, 08:03 AM
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The proof will be in the pudding. It will be interesting to see if the MSP reps are in attendance at the MSP meeting.
We will have to wait to see if the conspiracy theory has validity.
We will have to wait to see if the conspiracy theory has validity.
06-03-2012, 09:50 AM
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Anyway, C2K that took effect in mid 2001 had a "hard cap" of 57 70 seaters and no 90 seaters.
06-03-2012, 12:28 PM
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I'm under the impression over half of DTW has already submitted DPA cards (along with MSP).
I can't imagine DTW rolling over for this TA. Sure, a several of the safe "yes" voters showed up today--DALPA's "rent-a-crowd". However, I'm sure a vast majority of the DTW group couldn't be bothered to waste their time on an indoctrination session.
This attempt to portray passage as inevitable is more DALPA spin; they are trying to invent peer pressure and a sense of "lost cause" that doesn't exist.
This thing is far from a done deal--especially in the former North bases.
I can't imagine DTW rolling over for this TA. Sure, a several of the safe "yes" voters showed up today--DALPA's "rent-a-crowd". However, I'm sure a vast majority of the DTW group couldn't be bothered to waste their time on an indoctrination session.
This attempt to portray passage as inevitable is more DALPA spin; they are trying to invent peer pressure and a sense of "lost cause" that doesn't exist.
This thing is far from a done deal--especially in the former North bases.
06-03-2012, 12:38 PM
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The company will only purchase 717's if this TA passes. They have a plan B and have been looking at 319's coming off leases and have already identified the 30 or so they need.
The company doesn't have to park the 50 seaters, they want to but they don't have to. DL will make huge profits with the 50 seater this year and next. Have you seen the price of oil lately? DL will also use the $400 mil cost of this TA to overhaul and renegotiate the DCI contracts.
Please connect the dots guys. This isn't a great deal but it is a good deal and if we turn it down we will be in section 6 under the NMB. This isn't a fear tactic, it's reality spawned by knowing people involved in the decision making process at DL. If it passes hiring is going to crank up in the 1st quarter, if it doesn't they will re-evaluate based on the economy. Not a fear tactic just the truth.
On the 76 seater: we gave that up 3 contracts or so ago (shame on us) and they will never come back to mainline. Our best hope is to limit the number of jets flying DCI and there by limiting the number of outsourced jobs. This TA does that.
The company doesn't have to park the 50 seaters, they want to but they don't have to. DL will make huge profits with the 50 seater this year and next. Have you seen the price of oil lately? DL will also use the $400 mil cost of this TA to overhaul and renegotiate the DCI contracts.
Please connect the dots guys. This isn't a great deal but it is a good deal and if we turn it down we will be in section 6 under the NMB. This isn't a fear tactic, it's reality spawned by knowing people involved in the decision making process at DL. If it passes hiring is going to crank up in the 1st quarter, if it doesn't they will re-evaluate based on the economy. Not a fear tactic just the truth.
On the 76 seater: we gave that up 3 contracts or so ago (shame on us) and they will never come back to mainline. Our best hope is to limit the number of jets flying DCI and there by limiting the number of outsourced jobs. This TA does that.
06-03-2012, 12:40 PM
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I am bored.. it is too hot outside today... but this place is becoming depressing again...
I keep hoping for a forum that is becoming educated, but *sigh*... so I have edited my ignore list, and it is easier to wade thru the whining.. but when stuff gets quoted it is still here..
ciao.
I keep hoping for a forum that is becoming educated, but *sigh*... so I have edited my ignore list, and it is easier to wade thru the whining.. but when stuff gets quoted it is still here..
ciao.
06-04-2012, 06:43 PM
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Part of that same DALPA DTW Roadshow thread included the fact the RA assured Lee Moak that he was not assuming Delta leadership to facilitate a merger, then 8 months later that was precisely what he did.
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Many analysts predicted an eventual Delta-Northwest tie-up after Anderson, a former Northwest CEO, was named last August to be the chief executive officer of Delta.
Anderson, who was Northwest's CEO from 2001 to 2004, immediately sought to quiet those suggestions, telling Delta's pilots union chairman the morning his appointment was announced that he believed in Delta's standalone plan and that "he was not coming in as CEO to facilitate a merger with Northwest."
But eight months later, that's what Anderson is doing, and many analysts believe he didn't have a choice amid plummeting airline market values and soaring fuel prices.
Delta, Northwest airlines to merge | MLive.com
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So my question today is, what assurances is RA making to the current MEC Chairman? What is his hidden agenda?
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Many analysts predicted an eventual Delta-Northwest tie-up after Anderson, a former Northwest CEO, was named last August to be the chief executive officer of Delta.
Anderson, who was Northwest's CEO from 2001 to 2004, immediately sought to quiet those suggestions, telling Delta's pilots union chairman the morning his appointment was announced that he believed in Delta's standalone plan and that "he was not coming in as CEO to facilitate a merger with Northwest."
But eight months later, that's what Anderson is doing, and many analysts believe he didn't have a choice amid plummeting airline market values and soaring fuel prices.
Delta, Northwest airlines to merge | MLive.com
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So my question today is, what assurances is RA making to the current MEC Chairman? What is his hidden agenda?
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