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Old 11-15-2012, 06:29 AM
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I am curious why ALPA hasn't had a Union drive at JetBlue since the rules changed, it seems like it would be an easy task considering a non vote does not constitute a "NO" vote now.....
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Old 11-15-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs View Post
I am curious why ALPA hasn't had a Union drive at JetBlue since the rules changed, it seems like it would be an easy task considering a non vote does not constitute a "NO" vote now.....

The ALPA drive failed last year and ALPA are wary. The force is strong with the weak.


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Old 11-15-2012, 06:58 AM
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"Hope" Sir?


Was it "hope" that got INDUSTRY STANDARD COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS at the Majors. Or. did they NEGOTIATE?????????????


HOPE is something that PRIVATE PILOTS do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They hope the weather will be nice to go flying or hope they can afford to rent a plane soon.


This is an INDUSTRY and we fly for a BUSINESS. In BUSINESS, you get what you NEGOTIATE, not what you HOPE for.

Don't be a cofee table business man. You fly for a BUSINESS. You work for BUSINESSMEN. You need to up your game and be a BUSINESSMAN!

Hope has not, and will not cut it.


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Old 11-15-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211 View Post
"Hope" Sir?


Was it "hope" that got INDUSTRY STANDARD COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS at the Majors. Or. did they NEGOTIATE?????????????


HOPE is something that PRIVATE PILOTS do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They hope the weather will be nice to go flying or hope they can afford to rent a plane soon.


This is an INDUSTRY and we fly for a BUSINESS. In BUSINESS, you get what you NEGOTIATE, not what you HOPE for.

Don't be a cofee table business man. You fly for a BUSINESS. You work for BUSINESSMEN. You need to up your game and be a BUSINESSMAN!

Hope has not, and will not cut it.


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You need to take a deep breath before your head pops off from your torso. Or maybe you're senior to me, so keep at it!

Really, the guy only said he "hopes" it happens. Not "expects" or "they said it so it will happen." We are not in a position to negotiate, obviously. Therefore, I "hope" we get a raise, too. I don't expect it; I am skeptical, doubt it will happen, but sure, I hope it happens. Don't you?

Hoping for a raise at this point is all we can do, since we have no "hand." In the meantime, we can work on organizing so we don't have to "hope" for a raise.
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:33 AM
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You need to take a deep breath before your head pops off from your torso. Or maybe you're senior to me, so keep at it!

Really, the guy only said he "hopes" it happens. Not "expects" or "they said it so it will happen." We are not in a position to negotiate, obviously. Therefore, I "hope" we get a raise, too. I don't expect it; I am skeptical, doubt it will happen, but sure, I hope it happens. Don't you?

Hoping for a raise at this point is all we can do, since we have no "hand." In the meantime, we can work on organizing so we don't have to "hope" for a raise.

No deep breath required Brother. I'm completely calm. Just amazed by how naive some people are.



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Old 11-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs View Post
I am curious why ALPA hasn't had a Union drive at JetBlue since the rules changed, it seems like it would be an easy task considering a non vote does not constitute a "NO" vote now.....
Where were you last year in August? The new rules applied then we still lost.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:10 PM
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Where were you last year in August? The new rules applied then we still lost.
Jesus , shame on me for not knowing. Shame on the pilots for not voting in favor of ALPA
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:35 PM
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Jesus , shame on me for not knowing. Shame on the pilots for not voting in favor of ALPA
I thought maybe you where hired at JB since then. I wasn't trying to sound aggressive.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IQuitEagle View Post
You need to take a deep breath before your head pops off from your torso. Or maybe you're senior to me, so keep at it!

Really, the guy only said he "hopes" it happens. Not "expects" or "they said it so it will happen." We are not in a position to negotiate, obviously. Therefore, I "hope" we get a raise, too. I don't expect it; I am skeptical, doubt it will happen, but sure, I hope it happens. Don't you?

Hoping for a raise at this point is all we can do, since we have no "hand." In the meantime, we can work on organizing so we don't have to "hope" for a raise.
This statement is scary for pilots everywhere and music to mgt's ears.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Climbto450 View Post
I thought maybe you where hired at JB since then. I wasn't trying to sound aggressive.
I didn't take it that way at all
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