DAL Reserve
08-08-2008, 02:44 AM
#23
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
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You can put in preferences for your short call days and request AM or PM. They do not have to honor the requests, but most of the time they do. You can also move off days and drop payback days on your schedule. I've had pretty good luck getting the time I need off.
My observation is that High Yellow slips are not always honored before they use a regular reserve and the Reserve Utilization Order gets muddy when it comes to high and low yellow slips.
My observation is that High Yellow slips are not always honored before they use a regular reserve and the Reserve Utilization Order gets muddy when it comes to high and low yellow slips.
08-08-2008, 05:02 AM
#24
Looking for a laugh
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,099
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
My observation is that High Yellow slips are not always honored before they use a regular reserve and the Reserve Utilization Order gets muddy when it comes to high and low yellow slips.
Are you referring to the ability to request a specific rotation while on reserve under the slip request function?
08-08-2008, 05:15 AM
#25
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Originally Posted by Xray678
The formula is crazy. Bottom line though is you get roughly 15 points toward your RAW for every day you fly. The whole idea was to spread out the flying so you didn't have half the reserves filling up by the 20th and being unavailable the rest of the month. Toward that end, it has fulfilled it's purpose.
08-08-2008, 07:09 AM
#26
Happy to be here
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Well actually according to the schedulers (Tom) a high yellow is when a reserve pilot puts in a yellow slip for off day fly, and a low is for a guy that reduces his RAW value.
Now I agree that it is the same for a line holder.
Now I agree that it is the same for a line holder.
08-08-2008, 08:23 AM
#27
Looking for a laugh
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Well actually according to the schedulers (Tom) a high yellow is when a reserve pilot puts in a yellow slip for off day fly, and a low is for a guy that reduces his RAW value.
Now I agree that it is the same for a line holder.
Now I agree that it is the same for a line holder.
While I know that this sounds anal, if we allow management (scedulers) to make up their own terms for items in our contract, what other liberties are they taking?
08-08-2008, 10:10 AM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,216
Originally Posted by tsquare
I know the basics, but it's still a system that abrogates seniority. Therefore in an industry where seniority is everything.. it is wrong. Period.
I really don't have a problem with the reserve system other than I think seniority should be honored in giving out short calls. Further, I think two times a year, Thanksgiving and Christmas, the RAW should go out the window and seniority should dictate who flies and who stays home. There is no excuse, RAW score or not, for a senior pilot to get a trip over Christmas while someone junior to him/her stays home.
Reserve is not bad if you live in base. I jumped early to hold captain, and was on reserve for about six months. But, I won't go back on reserve again.
08-08-2008, 04:46 PM
#29
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Originally Posted by Xray678
Yes it does. It is supposed to. But, there is no way to honor seniority without having pilots who fill up before the end of the month.
I really don't have a problem with the reserve system other than I think seniority should be honored in giving out short calls. Further, I think two times a year, Thanksgiving and Christmas, the RAW should go out the window and seniority should dictate who flies and who stays home. There is no excuse, RAW score or not, for a senior pilot to get a trip over Christmas while someone junior to him/her stays home.
Reserve is not bad if you live in base. I jumped early to hold captain, and was on reserve for about six months. But, I won't go back on reserve again.
I really don't have a problem with the reserve system other than I think seniority should be honored in giving out short calls. Further, I think two times a year, Thanksgiving and Christmas, the RAW should go out the window and seniority should dictate who flies and who stays home. There is no excuse, RAW score or not, for a senior pilot to get a trip over Christmas while someone junior to him/her stays home.
Reserve is not bad if you live in base. I jumped early to hold captain, and was on reserve for about six months. But, I won't go back on reserve again.
We will have to agree to disagree. Abrogation of seniority is wrong.. an it is a huge concession with each and every contract or side letter. Next real contract (if I live long enough to see one) If this and the current sick leave remain.. auto NO. I've had enough.
08-08-2008, 05:02 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,216
Originally Posted by tsquare
We will have to agree to disagree. Abrogation of seniority is wrong.. an it is a huge concession with each and every contract or side letter. Next real contract (if I live long enough to see one) If this and the current sick leave remain.. auto NO. I've had enough.
I agree with you. The problem is, and will be, the union never gives us a yes or no vote on individual issues. You can accept or reject the contract as a whole. DALPA knows this.
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