Basically, the same as before except to be qualified, the pilot must have been based for the most recent 12 months out of either IAD or IAH. And, if a pilot transfers from one of those bases, they are no longer qualified.

Everyone then quickly noted that there were no IAD slots in the latest standing bid.

Is the CPP seniority based on your enrollment period or Mesa company seniority?

Your Mesa seniority applies to all pilots that meet the requirements, regardless of when you enroll.

Senior captains in IAH and IAD that meet United’s qualifications (that want to go back to flying in the right seat for United) must be doing cartwheels. For older pilots, an Xjet pilot told me United even took a 62 year old as a CPP hire.

I know last year at Xjet that United was interviewing pilots at the 9 year seniority mark. I assume that has dropped at Xjet since United’s hiring has picked up and Xjet’s pilot numbers are dwindling rapidly.

I’m imagining a good chunk that qualify will try to make the jump. Most the older guys in IAD are solid and normal. I would average them around 55ish definitely worth the try.

Anything more on this program? Has anyone actually been in contact with United’s HR yet? I noticed Delta started a similar program with all its non-wholly owned regionals.

Did they? I thought the delta program was just app review more often. Only thing I’ve heard is that the attendance policy is 1 call out a quarter.

What exactly is the United CPP attendance policy? That was supposed to be pravoided on June 1st.

Basically, what do we get beyond an application review and a call from HR for the CPP?

According to my buddy at SkyWest, Delta is supposed to review 20 SKW pilot apps per month.

Must be low on importance. I definitely commend DL for offering something to the pilots flying under its brand but an app review seems kinda weak to me.

I would prefer to see these airlines give more credit to time served under their brands.

I believe the United attendance policy is 5 events a year. A 4 day trip called out would be a one day event.

No wonder Mesa didn’t roll out that policy. Calling out sick is the only way a junior pilot can get a line and get a specific day off. I always thought 25% of our pilots would qualify for CPP. Probably more like only 10% of our pilots qualify.

If someone thinks they are a year or so away from actually qualifying for the CPP, they should probably start trying to be healthier:)

I'm curious too how many actually qualify for this program.

If pilots don’t start qualifying and being hired by United this fall, that will be bad news for Mesa’s recruiting efforts.

Has anyone that qualifies even been contacted by UA?

No one has been contacted yet probably because no one at Mesa qualifies. I would think the first to hear anything will be the CA’s out of IAD. Crickets.

Meanwhile, CommutAir is making this program work for their pilots faster than anywhere else.

Uh what? There’s plenty that qualify by a mile including myself.

I am just being cynical of Mesa being serious about rolling this out and making it work. They want to attract new recruits, but not lose any captains. Our CPP total time and pic requirement is already 1,000 hours more than any other carrier. Even then, those who are qualified have heard nothing.

All the other CPP programs have pilots actively interviewing with United. Have you heard anything more and been interviewed with United?

What are the hour requirements for Mesa CPP?

2,000 tpic or 3,000 Mesa total pilot hours. Must have been assigned to a UAX base for the last 12 months.

Meanwhile, CommutAir is saying their CPP program moves pilots to United in as little as 2 years and 10 days - CommutAir doh to United doh.

That looks the same as what we have at XJT.

Which xjt pilot got hired in 2 years from doh to United in the cpp?

United does not require the 2000 hours of pic time at commutair either like they do at xjt.

I don’t think that the commutair cpp looks the same at all.

Actually XJT does NOT require 2000TPIC! It's either 3000 hours at XJT or 2000 TPIC. Not as long for new hires to be called into the CPP as others say.

Not as long?

3000 hours would take atleast 4 if not 5 years, No?

I agree. Some are thinking that someone hired today at XJT are looking at a minimum of 6-7 years before they would flow to UAL if they pass the CPP. I would say 3-5 years for most. If they already have TPIC time that could lower the time. The actual "pool" of CPP candidates is not that large as many think.

This is a Mesa forum. He is commenting that the hour requirement is the same at Xjet as Mesa.

We all know CommutAir is knocking the CPP out of the park as far as getting pilots hired at United.

3,000 hours is just over 3 years at Mesa.

Very few fly 1000 hours of actual flight a year. But hey, that is possible at any airline.

We are pretty close each year (its only a little over 83 hours per month). 83 hours per month is nothing on our schedules. Min credit was 80 hours this month and 79 hours next month.

You are not going to get 1000 hours your first year at any airline. Sounds like Mesa has a long delay for completion of training. Going to take closer to 4 years.

With the large number moving to United from XJT, (20-30 a month) I wonder what is going to happen when they reach the people in the CPP that don't have the flight time requirements. It will be interesting because it's a contractual percentage each month...

They will pass them up and defer them until they have the time. As far as “contractual” percentage.......there is no contract. In the event that they reach that point, I’m sure they will do what suits their needs.....period.

Took me 18 months at Mesa to get 1100 hours, back in 2013.

It depends on whether you are CRJ or Ejet. CRJ is 2 months to IOE. Ejet is presently 5 months to IOE. You are correct, I am counting from IOE. So, 3 and 1/2 years.

What years of seniority was the latest Xjet CPP hired by United?

Back in the good ole days, huh?

I believe they are up to 2005 or 2006 hire dates. However, with the number in the pool a pilot hired today that passes the cpp interview would probably be over at UAL in 3-5 years. Not bad.. We both know that UAL hiring could definitely change those numbers.

I deal in what we know to be the case rather than speculate in this industry. SGU could decide that Xjet is not worth saving with the pilot losses and shut Xjet down next year as another possibility.

The perinnial answer at Xjet is that upgrade times are going to drop (and they have from 8 or 9 years to 5 or 6). As far as CPP, I consider CommutAir’s 2 years and 10 days doh to doh as not bad. Not Xjet’s recruiters’ cheerleading on the future of its CPP.

Not at $22 hour, but having CLT as a base was very nice for where I lived. Easy commute.

What an idiot you are. All this post is speculation! You by far are a Mesa recruiter!!! Oh, and the Mesa CPP is working just great lol. More lies from your crooked leadership. I really tried to be civil with you but you just can't handle the truth.

You are just so funny. I love Xjet FO recruiters because they are so obvious. I am critical of Mesa just like any line pilot. You have never posted anything critical of Xjet on any forum. You are mostly a con artist.

Our CPP is a joke right now. ATL was a lie. We have no ability to drop trips.

I deal with facts.

It's funny watching you think I'm a recruiter. XJT has MANY bad issues right now but it is still by far a great place to work!!

I finished IOE at the end of November 2017. I'll have 1000 by the middle of November 2018 - having just picked up 2 extra turns. CRJ - DFW.