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Old 07-29-2020, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by propellere View Post
Your are welcome to apply when you get furloughed. We don’t have a tiller in the right seat though, and the reserve rules really suck. You have a better chance in corporate or go teach in the sim.
Most likely no chance at all in corporate as a furloughed 121 pilot. Unless you provide proof of your letter of resignation to the airline along with your application.
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Let’s be clear. At the town hall concern was expressed that furloughed united pilots had seat rights to the 175s. JO clarified that it wasn’t the case. No Mesa pilot can be displaced by a united pilot.

Whether it’s right or wrong nothing in the Mesa contract, that Alpa National approved, specifies any preferential hiring order and in fact leaves the hiring explicitly and entirely up to the company.

Clause 1-F spells it out if anyone wants to look it up.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
In the same LOA 5.a pilots must be on furlough OR notified of furlough. Next week we will have pilots notified of furlough, that is when this LOA will officially take effect.

but you are correct as of TODAY 7-29-2020 no pilot has been furloughed or notified of furlough.

I don’t really care who the company hires so long as they’re safe. This whole LOA doesn’t make a whole helluva a lot of sense to me though. Especially when you consider regional pay during the time the LOA was signed.

Why would someone want to go make regional pay when you can get a regular job that keeps you at home making the same money? You ha e zero need for experience or currency to go back to your furloughed job when they come calling. You’re literally just taking potential experience from the other regional guys who are trying to get what you’ve got.

As to why you’ve gotten some of the replies that you have, I have a theory about it. Reading your posts reads like a mafia guy rolling into a store offering protection while bullying the servers who have no say in what goes on at the store. Just my observations.
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
Let’s be clear. At the town hall concern was expressed that furloughed united pilots had seat rights to the 175s. JO clarified that it wasn’t the case. No Mesa pilot can be displaced by a united pilot.

Whether it’s right or wrong nothing in the Mesa contract, that Alpa National approved, specifies any preferential hiring order and in fact leaves the hiring explicitly and entirely up to the company.

Clause 1-F spells it out if anyone wants to look it up.
Let’s be clear. At the town hall concern was expressed that furloughed united pilots had seat rights to the 175s. JO clarified that it wasn’t the case. No Mesa pilot can be displaced by a united pilot.

this is correct

Whether it’s right or wrong nothing in the Mesa contract, that Alpa National approved, specifies any preferential hiring order and in fact leaves the hiring explicitly and entirely up to the company.

its not about the Mesa contract or any agreement with the Mesa MEC or ALPA National. This is 100% attached to United’s SCOPE. If you do not comply you do not get to operate as United express. This is way above the pay grade of anyone on this board. This LOA is most likely included somewhere in the operational contract between United and Mesa.

in normal times Mesa can hire whoever they want.
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Originally Posted by kevin18 View Post
I don’t really care who the company hires so long as they’re safe. This whole LOA doesn’t make a whole helluva a lot of sense to me though. Especially when you consider regional pay during the time the LOA was signed.

Why would someone want to go make regional pay when you can get a regular job that keeps you at home making the same money? You ha e zero need for experience or currency to go back to your furloughed job when they come calling. You’re literally just taking potential experience from the other regional guys who are trying to get what you’ve got.

As to why you’ve gotten some of the replies that you have, I have a theory about it. Reading your posts reads like a mafia guy rolling into a store offering protection while bullying the servers who have no say in what goes on at the store. Just my observations.
I would still like to fly jets if I get furloughed. It’s what I enjoy and it’s what I’m good at. If I can get a job that pays more maybe I’ll do that but I want to keep my options open.

as far as the mafia comment? If people want to get ****ed at the truth that’s not my fault. Raise your hand if you are at a United Express operator and new about this LOA before March......I’ll be honest with you I didn’t even know it existed until our MEC mentioned it. part of this forum is about gaining information whether you like that information is up to you.
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Master of puppets, get off the Mesa Board. Nobody wants to hear what you have to say.
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Originally Posted by propellere View Post
Master of puppets, get off the Mesa Board. Nobody wants to hear what you have to say.
hiding under your blanket doesn’t make the boogie man go away.
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Old 07-29-2020, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by propellere View Post
Your are welcome to apply when you get furloughed. We don’t have a tiller in the right seat though, and the reserve rules really suck. You have a better chance in corporate or go teach in the sim.
Everybody *****es about the reserve rules. Ours are better than at least 3 other regionals. We get per diem and time credit on ready.
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
hiding under your blanket doesn’t make the boogie man go away.
I don't think you have thought this through. Your muscle flexing over scope will actually reduce the number of regional jobs available for you to try and poach. You and your colleagues at the REAL airline are at the back of the line for a table that will get smaller. Go ahead and apply and explain in the interview that you are entitled to a job because you are a REAL pilot. You want the job but only because its the last resort. See how that works out for you.
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Old 07-30-2020, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
hiding under your blanket doesn’t make the boogie man go away.
Nobody:
MasterOfPuppets: YOU HAVE TO HIRE US FIRST!!!!!

This is what I hear coming outta this thread. Good to know we’re your last choice though. I haven’t flown with a guy constantly *****ing the whole time in a while, so flying with you might be a change of pace.
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