Mesa issues warn notice to pilots
09-18-2020, 09:58 AM
#1201
On Reserve
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
"Mesa expects to receive a total of $92.5 million in connection with the Payroll Support Program under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (“CARES Act”) covering the period April through September 2020. In April Mesa received $30.8 million under the program and expects to receive $15.4 each month from June through September."
Mesa reported over 3 millions in net income, where most other airlines reported tremendous losses.
Those earnings were achieved with 30 millions cares act support. Mesa is about to report another quarter. Expect to see even greater net income, as 61 million cares act payroll support will be added to that quarter. Flying HAS way increased compared to the previous quarter.
Mesa CAN NOT FURLOUGH unless the cares act money is depleted.
Vote NO!!!
Mesa reported over 3 millions in net income, where most other airlines reported tremendous losses.
Those earnings were achieved with 30 millions cares act support. Mesa is about to report another quarter. Expect to see even greater net income, as 61 million cares act payroll support will be added to that quarter. Flying HAS way increased compared to the previous quarter.
Mesa CAN NOT FURLOUGH unless the cares act money is depleted.
Vote NO!!!
They can't furlough (legally) until mid October. October 1st is not the dead line. We can negotiate something better then what we got put in front of us.
09-18-2020, 09:59 AM
#1202
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
In what timeframe?
I think they will do it all at once. It will be a little messy, and the amount of reserves will be higher because the manning ratios will be a little messed up. IAD being the junior FO base, so I would suspect there will be a lot of PHX and DFW FO’s sitting reserve there. SDF coverage will be a lot less important. I wouldn’t be surprised if they temporarily closed the base to pilots and FA’s.
They will probably throw the displacement bid out at the same time as the furlough information for those affected. If I was a guy who thought I was going to get displaced, I’d update my bid right now. They will probably do a 24hr window. If your not by a computer you might get screwed. These are obviously my thoughts, so Leader of the Babysharks might get all butt hurt. This is a forum, get over yourself.
09-18-2020, 10:03 AM
#1203
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Enough with the hobby pilot stuff. Tell it to your buddy who says he has “more money in the bank than we’ve ever dreamed.”
If I would have upgraded..I would be downgraded anyway yeah?!
Literally every other airline is doing deals for furlough mitigation. All the no concessions til furlough people..are in fact making concessions to save their jobs and their coworkers jobs. This is our deal. Mesa pilots going to be the only one to hold their company to the fire? Great way to screw the people who are left..because they won’t be caring about 8 hours pay when they’re now sitting ready reserve instead of holding a line. Or commuting across the country to sit reserve.
They’re going to furlough anyway..but the numbers are lies? Which is it. No voters seem to be confused!
If I would have upgraded..I would be downgraded anyway yeah?!
Literally every other airline is doing deals for furlough mitigation. All the no concessions til furlough people..are in fact making concessions to save their jobs and their coworkers jobs. This is our deal. Mesa pilots going to be the only one to hold their company to the fire? Great way to screw the people who are left..because they won’t be caring about 8 hours pay when they’re now sitting ready reserve instead of holding a line. Or commuting across the country to sit reserve.
They’re going to furlough anyway..but the numbers are lies? Which is it. No voters seem to be confused!
09-18-2020, 10:06 AM
#1204
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Originally Posted by AllBusinesssome
The company used 43m in last quarter employee cost should not have gone up (but down) so they should use 43m this quarter leaving at least 6.5m.
They can't furlough (legally) until mid October. October 1st is not the dead line. We can negotiate something better then what we got put in front of us.
They can't furlough (legally) until mid October. October 1st is not the dead line. We can negotiate something better then what we got put in front of us.
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
09-18-2020, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
There is no basis in reality or numbers for this estimate. It's your highly uneducated and hopeful guess. I ran real numbers with real seniority. I think it's going to be bad. Also your ratio of furlough to downgrade is skewed in a strange direction.
The Company is planning to downgrade less than half those furloughed. Your estimate is the other direction.
The Company is planning to downgrade less than half those furloughed. Your estimate is the other direction.
09-18-2020, 10:12 AM
#1207
Line Holder
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Were you on the calls? Apparently the money goes straight to our partners and then paid back as normal through our block hours..so technically it was gone as soon as they got it?...sounds like a loophole.
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
09-18-2020, 10:13 AM
#1208
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Originally Posted by MesaPilot
Keep up the good fight. You can’t fix these young unprofessional pilots and you can’t fix stupid
09-18-2020, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by propellere
It’s not a crack at you, but you have to agree. You don’t need the money, otherwise you would have upgraded. You would rather be based in PHX as an FO line holder than go to Dallas as a CA on reserve. It’s ok, but you are a hobby pilot. You got some other means of income, that’s fine. Just own it. Some of us this is our only means of survival.
09-18-2020, 10:19 AM
#1210
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Originally Posted by MesaPilot
I like you. Keep up the good work. Just vote yes and hope half of these pilots either are too junior or can’t figure out how to vote since they clearly don’t use their brains.
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