Mesa issues warn notice to pilots
09-18-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by propellere
Says the Mesa lifer 😂😂😂😂🤣 The only thing you know how to do is take the path of least resistance. Another beta male
Does that mean something I wonder 🤔
09-18-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Are they a Mesa lifer? Because if they are..they are in the top seniority..and would not be affected by this..and have lived the good life of no concessions til furloughs..or bankruptcy as the case may be..yet here they are..saying to vote yes.
Does that mean something I wonder 🤔
Does that mean something I wonder 🤔
09-18-2020, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Were you on the calls? Apparently the money goes straight to our partners and then paid back as normal through our block hours..so technically it was gone as soon as they got it?...sounds like a loophole.
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
09-18-2020, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by propellere
Says the Mesa lifer 😂😂😂😂🤣 The only thing you know how to do is take the path of least resistance. Another beta male
09-18-2020, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Were you on the calls? Apparently the money goes straight to our partners and then paid back as normal through our block hours..so technically it was gone as soon as they got it?...sounds like a loophole.
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
I’m all for a better deal..but that’s a big bluff with JO..and if there is nothing else..the stakes are too high..
I was on that call, and it's true what you're saying.
However, Mesa hasn't received all money by one payment, as it's clearly documented in the last quarterly report.
That money can only be used towards payroll, and not for reimbursement for hourly block hours. So giving it to mainline isn't likely. He said all the money went straight to mainline, and they were passing it back to us.
J.O. cannot lie to the share holders. He only can lie to his employees.
I call that a false information from the call.
09-18-2020, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Enough with the hobby pilot stuff. Tell it to your buddy who says he has “more money in the bank than we’ve ever dreamed.”
If I would have upgraded..I would be downgraded anyway yeah?!
Literally every other airline is doing deals for furlough mitigation. All the no concessions til furlough people..are in fact making concessions to save their jobs and their coworkers jobs. This is our deal. Mesa pilots going to be the only one to hold their company to the fire? Great way to screw the people who are left..because they won’t be caring about 8 hours pay when they’re now sitting ready reserve instead of holding a line. Or commuting across the country to sit reserve.
They’re going to furlough anyway..but the numbers are lies? Which is it. No voters seem to be confused!
If I would have upgraded..I would be downgraded anyway yeah?!
Literally every other airline is doing deals for furlough mitigation. All the no concessions til furlough people..are in fact making concessions to save their jobs and their coworkers jobs. This is our deal. Mesa pilots going to be the only one to hold their company to the fire? Great way to screw the people who are left..because they won’t be caring about 8 hours pay when they’re now sitting ready reserve instead of holding a line. Or commuting across the country to sit reserve.
They’re going to furlough anyway..but the numbers are lies? Which is it. No voters seem to be confused!
If ALL the hobby pilots @ Mesa would ask for an LOA, we would be properly staffed, going forward without furloughs.
09-18-2020, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
If ALL the hobby pilots @ Mesa would ask for an LOA, we would be properly staffed, going forward without furloughs.
I have been on VLOA for the duration..I can’t do it forever though..as I’m legit starting to forget where the buttons are😂 Do you feel we have that many hobby pilots? I don’t feel like I’ve come across many..A few junior guys for sure but not the guys at the top...but definitely wish more would go for it for sure.
09-18-2020, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Interesting insight on your previous post. Would be curious to know how it worked. Either way revenue is down an absurd amount..we can’t sustain that for long.
I have been on VLOA for the duration..I can’t do it forever though..as I’m legit starting to forget where the buttons are😂 Do you feel we have that many hobby pilots? I don’t feel like I’ve come across many..A few junior guys for sure but not the guys at the top...but definitely wish more would go for it for sure.
I have been on VLOA for the duration..I can’t do it forever though..as I’m legit starting to forget where the buttons are😂 Do you feel we have that many hobby pilots? I don’t feel like I’ve come across many..A few junior guys for sure but not the guys at the top...but definitely wish more would go for it for sure.
You can find some at the very top of the fo seniority list.
I fly with many FOs showing me their million dollar house, their business, their yachts, etc.
09-18-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mjpilot
There are lots of hobby pilots that don't need the money.
You can find some at the very top of the fo seniority list.
I fly with many FOs showing me their million dollar house, their business, their yachts, etc.
You can find some at the very top of the fo seniority list.
I fly with many FOs showing me their million dollar house, their business, their yachts, etc.
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