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Old 12-16-2020, 11:07 AM
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your looking at the future of regionals. Breeze will be the first to use this “hybrid regional” pay structure.

slightly higher or equal to a regional but lower than a LCC. People will stay here for a career
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your looking at the future of regionals. Breeze will be the first to use this “hybrid regional” pay structure.

slightly higher or equal to a regional but lower than a LCC. People will stay here for a career

It makes sense.


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Old 12-16-2020, 05:11 PM
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your looking at the future of regionals. Breeze will be the first to use this “hybrid regional” pay structure.

slightly higher or equal to a regional but lower than a LCC. People will stay here for a career
For furloughed pilots, it also beats getting paid $0/hr with a 0 hr/mo guarantee. Breeze struck at the right time.
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Old 12-16-2020, 05:22 PM
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For furloughed pilots, it also beats getting paid $0/hr with a 0 hr/mo guarantee. Breeze struck at the right time.
You really think that just because a pilot is furloughed he/she is going to work for peanuts ? We all love flying but at the end of the day we all have real BILLS to pay, I’m sorry but anyone who receives a offer from breeze should turn it down, it’s so disrespectful to even offer that type of money.
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Old 12-17-2020, 02:13 AM
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You really think that just because a pilot is furloughed he/she is going to work for peanuts ? We all love flying but at the end of the day we all have real BILLS to pay, I’m sorry but anyone who receives a offer from breeze should turn it down, it’s so disrespectful to even offer that type of money.
This is ridiculous. A year ago we had zero problem finding new hires for $36/hr. Yes, there were bonuses (which I hope we never see again), and a second year rate of $38/hr. Do you really think guys should turn down $50/hr because it’s disrespectful? Too funny.
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Old 12-17-2020, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568 View Post
tbh a lot of other regionals pay $50 an hour year one, to fly 50 seat jets. And we make 90k+ as captains. So it is, in fact, disrespectful to offer that. But what is worse than a company trying to offer that, is that there are pilots who would go do it. And that undermines the rest of the industry.

people are trying to call it “hybrid” pay. All I see is regional pay to fly a bigger plane.
Can’t blame a company putting out pay rates that they know will fill seats. Pay isn’t about charity or what’s respectful. It’s about filling openings with people you want in those seats. It would be irresponsible as a business to offer more than necessary to accomplish what they need to. If the seats do not get filled they will increase the pay until they do.
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Old 12-17-2020, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by airspeedsalive View Post
This is ridiculous. A year ago we had zero problem finding new hires for $36/hr. Yes, there were bonuses (which I hope we never see again), and a second year rate of $38/hr. Do you really think guys should turn down $50/hr because it’s disrespectful? Too funny.
You are right, 20k+bonuses are not good enough incentives for someone to pay off debt especially for someone coming out of flight training, who most likely never even flown a jet and who will probably upgrade in less than 3 years and make decent money.
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Old 12-17-2020, 08:52 AM
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you guys DO realize you're applying a pay paradigm that shifted last summer, don't you?

yesterday's way of the world is not today's. tomorrow, perhaps, but not today.
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Old 12-17-2020, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568 View Post
If people never stop flocking to these bottom tier companies, pay will never increase. It’s common sense. There is never going to be a need to increase pay at Mesa, there is a pool of pilots wanting to get in at what it is now.

JO and his team were seeing what they could get away with when they proposed the line reduction. That could very well never come back up and pay could very well never increase. There’s no reason to... people are lined out the door hoping to fly there for some reason
........................................ it’s comming back up next month, as was agreed to. Try to keep up................................................ .................
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Old 12-17-2020, 10:40 AM
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........................................ it’s comming back up next month, as was agreed to. Try to keep up................................................ .................
Co is well positioned to either accept more cares payroll support when approved or furlough if it’s not. Either plan saves more money that a reduced credit MOU.
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