Mesa
#1011
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: South Paw
Posts: 630
How bout these wonderful lines that will be coming out? 7 hour three days? Jeez We're all going to have 11 days off from now on.
Last edited by skillett; 12-20-2013 at 12:39 AM.
#1012
Quote:
Originally Posted by prior121
Sulk, I'm sorry I have rubbed you the wrong way but "I" set myself up for this. This is not luck on my part, this was all planned.
I came to Mesa in the spring after doing a lot of research. I knew that Mesa would be hiring well into the foreseeable future therefore I would quickly move up the FO seniorirty list at a JR base. I knew the 170's were coming before I stepped foot onto Mesa property.
I moved to base so I wouldn't have to commute. I bid reserve so I get the days off I ask for.
I didn't come to mesa as a shot in the dark. I took the right steps so that 8 months ago I knew I would have a good QOL. I will not upgrade to the first available. I will decide on a base that I can comfortably move to, etc.
Sometimes I don't pity these guys complaining. Ok, so your purchased a house in rural Colorado and now your b*tching about commuting to CLT for reserve. These are choices YOU made, no one else. I understand bases close left and right in the regional world. That is why I have no plans of purchasing a house until I get (if i get to ) to a stable mainline carrier. And when I do it will be in a base that most likely won't close. IAD, ORD, DFW, NYC area, etc.
You really need to plan for this career if you want to do it comfortably.
We have 15 year Captains commuting to CLT from PHX. They have kids and a family, they just can't pick up and move. Try and sell your house in this market for what you paid for it. "Stable mainline job" Ask the folks in PIT/Airways, SFO/American, LAS/Airways, MEM/Delta and many others. Your being a rookie, this business is constantly changing. I think being a little more sympathetic to others situation would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by prior121
Sulk, I'm sorry I have rubbed you the wrong way but "I" set myself up for this. This is not luck on my part, this was all planned.
I came to Mesa in the spring after doing a lot of research. I knew that Mesa would be hiring well into the foreseeable future therefore I would quickly move up the FO seniorirty list at a JR base. I knew the 170's were coming before I stepped foot onto Mesa property.
I moved to base so I wouldn't have to commute. I bid reserve so I get the days off I ask for.
I didn't come to mesa as a shot in the dark. I took the right steps so that 8 months ago I knew I would have a good QOL. I will not upgrade to the first available. I will decide on a base that I can comfortably move to, etc.
Sometimes I don't pity these guys complaining. Ok, so your purchased a house in rural Colorado and now your b*tching about commuting to CLT for reserve. These are choices YOU made, no one else. I understand bases close left and right in the regional world. That is why I have no plans of purchasing a house until I get (if i get to ) to a stable mainline carrier. And when I do it will be in a base that most likely won't close. IAD, ORD, DFW, NYC area, etc.
You really need to plan for this career if you want to do it comfortably.
We have 15 year Captains commuting to CLT from PHX. They have kids and a family, they just can't pick up and move. Try and sell your house in this market for what you paid for it. "Stable mainline job" Ask the folks in PIT/Airways, SFO/American, LAS/Airways, MEM/Delta and many others. Your being a rookie, this business is constantly changing. I think being a little more sympathetic to others situation would be appreciated.
Be thankful for your health and your job.
#1013
Quote:
Originally Posted by skillett
Quote:
Originally Posted by prior121
Sulk, I'm sorry I have rubbed you the wrong way but "I" set myself up for this. This is not luck on my part, this was all planned.
I came to Mesa in the spring after doing a lot of research. I knew that Mesa would be hiring well into the foreseeable future therefore I would quickly move up the FO seniorirty list at a JR base. I knew the 170's were coming before I stepped foot onto Mesa property.
I moved to base so I wouldn't have to commute. I bid reserve so I get the days off I ask for.
I didn't come to mesa as a shot in the dark. I took the right steps so that 8 months ago I knew I would have a good QOL. I will not upgrade to the first available. I will decide on a base that I can comfortably move to, etc.
Sometimes I don't pity these guys complaining. Ok, so your purchased a house in rural Colorado and now your b*tching about commuting to CLT for reserve. These are choices YOU made, no one else. I understand bases close left and right in the regional world. That is why I have no plans of purchasing a house until I get (if i get to ) to a stable mainline carrier. And when I do it will be in a base that most likely won't close. IAD, ORD, DFW, NYC area, etc.
You really need to plan for this career if you want to do it comfortably.
We have 15 year Captains commuting to CLT from PHX. They have kids and a family, they just can't pick up and move. Try and sell your house in this market for what you paid for it. "Stable mainline job" Ask the folks in PIT/Airways, SFO/American, LAS/Airways, MEM/Delta and many others. Your being a rookie, this business is constantly changing. I think being a little more sympathetic to others situation would be appreciated.
Life isn't fair skillet, stop whining.
Be thankful for your health and your job.
Originally Posted by skillett
Quote:
Originally Posted by prior121
Sulk, I'm sorry I have rubbed you the wrong way but "I" set myself up for this. This is not luck on my part, this was all planned.
I came to Mesa in the spring after doing a lot of research. I knew that Mesa would be hiring well into the foreseeable future therefore I would quickly move up the FO seniorirty list at a JR base. I knew the 170's were coming before I stepped foot onto Mesa property.
I moved to base so I wouldn't have to commute. I bid reserve so I get the days off I ask for.
I didn't come to mesa as a shot in the dark. I took the right steps so that 8 months ago I knew I would have a good QOL. I will not upgrade to the first available. I will decide on a base that I can comfortably move to, etc.
Sometimes I don't pity these guys complaining. Ok, so your purchased a house in rural Colorado and now your b*tching about commuting to CLT for reserve. These are choices YOU made, no one else. I understand bases close left and right in the regional world. That is why I have no plans of purchasing a house until I get (if i get to ) to a stable mainline carrier. And when I do it will be in a base that most likely won't close. IAD, ORD, DFW, NYC area, etc.
You really need to plan for this career if you want to do it comfortably.
We have 15 year Captains commuting to CLT from PHX. They have kids and a family, they just can't pick up and move. Try and sell your house in this market for what you paid for it. "Stable mainline job" Ask the folks in PIT/Airways, SFO/American, LAS/Airways, MEM/Delta and many others. Your being a rookie, this business is constantly changing. I think being a little more sympathetic to others situation would be appreciated.
Life isn't fair skillet, stop whining.
Be thankful for your health and your job.
#1015
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: South Paw
Posts: 630
I'm not whining, I'm not in that situation. I'm taking up for the thousands of pilots that have been displaced thinking they were safe from any movement after 15 years of service to their company. They are not on here to take up for themselves because they have better things to do than to debate with some newbie like yourself. And yes your a newbie, your not off one year probation yet. Your best bet would be to continue helping the newbies out with newbie questions. And keep your opinions about life choices for people that have been here or anywhere else through the thick and thin to yourself.
Last edited by skillett; 12-20-2013 at 08:47 AM. Reason: spell
#1016
Quote:
Originally Posted by prior121
Life isn't fair skillet, stop whining.
Be thankful for your health and your job.
I'm not whining, I'm not in that situation. I'm taking up for the thousands of pilots that have been displaced thinking they were safe from any movement after 15 years of service to their company. They are not on here to take up for themselves because they have better things to do than to debate with some newbie like yourself. And yes your a newbie, your not off one year probation yet. Your best bet would be to continue helping the newbies out with newbie questions. And keep your opinions about life choices for people that have been here or anywhere else through the thick and thin to yourself.
Originally Posted by prior121
Life isn't fair skillet, stop whining.
Be thankful for your health and your job.
I'm not whining, I'm not in that situation. I'm taking up for the thousands of pilots that have been displaced thinking they were safe from any movement after 15 years of service to their company. They are not on here to take up for themselves because they have better things to do than to debate with some newbie like yourself. And yes your a newbie, your not off one year probation yet. Your best bet would be to continue helping the newbies out with newbie questions. And keep your opinions about life choices for people that have been here or anywhere else through the thick and thin to yourself.
If I buy a house in CLT, and two years from now CLT closes and I get displaced, that's MY damn fault. Not the companies. This is a regional airline, bases open and close, it's the nature of the beast.
I maybe "newer" here but I am not new to this industry, or especially the business world, or even new to thinking for that matter.
I question anyone who makes a home purchase in a regional airline base without understanding two years from now that sure as hell may not be their base.
This job requires either a lot of moving or a lot of commuting, especially at the regional level, I'm dumbfounded at those who are surprised or angry about that. Especially after being here 15+ years.
#1017
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: South Paw
Posts: 630
Giving sympathy to people that are "having it rough" because they've had a base closure or been displaced shows you didn't even read my original post.
If I buy a house in CLT, and two years from now CLT closes and I get displaced, that's MY damn fault. Not the companies. This is a regional airline, bases open and close, it's the nature of the beast.
I maybe "newer" here but I am not new to this industry, or especially the business world, or even new to thinking for that matter.
I question anyone who makes a home purchase in a regional airline base without understanding two years from now that sure as hell may not be their base.
This job requires either a lot of moving or a lot of commuting, especially at the regional level, I'm dumbfounded at those who are surprised or angry about that. Especially after being here 15+ years.
If I buy a house in CLT, and two years from now CLT closes and I get displaced, that's MY damn fault. Not the companies. This is a regional airline, bases open and close, it's the nature of the beast.
I maybe "newer" here but I am not new to this industry, or especially the business world, or even new to thinking for that matter.
I question anyone who makes a home purchase in a regional airline base without understanding two years from now that sure as hell may not be their base.
This job requires either a lot of moving or a lot of commuting, especially at the regional level, I'm dumbfounded at those who are surprised or angry about that. Especially after being here 15+ years.
#1018
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 618
Thats why why I want this path. I'm sick of working hard and want to relax. since this industry is so backwards now it tough to approach it as a high paying career. Getting on with UAL with 18 days off flying a 777 is a lottery ticket now. I just want to bid reserve and live in base and fly as many out and backs and sleep in my own bed. If I have to give up a lot of pay to increase my quality of life at least i'll die happy. Don't get me wrong I expect to get abuse but my goal is to find the line each month that keeps me at home the most. I don't see this as a career anymore because your employers don't care about you and abuse you. I just look at it as a easy nontraditional job. Ask all the 10 year regional pilots where they thought they would be today 10 years ago today. This is by far a career that I would recommend. I'm just lucky I have all my time from a decade ago to fall back on. Now if this shortage does play out(will see) then it might be a good time to jump in. this is why I'm ready to take another swing today. But I can tell you this, the ball is in the pilots court, and all new hires can't let the scare tatics of a company scare you into concessions. This has done nothing but turn this industry into a playground for the rich kids. I guess all i need is a backpack, some hair gel, and head phones because thats what my peers tell me what its like on line now.
#1019
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
St, never feel like you have to justify your decisions to strangers over the internet. It's a fools goal. Good luck with flying, I hope you get your dream line with tons of home time.
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