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10-18-2014 | 12:55 PM
#3541
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From: Airbus FO
Like I care when Mesa stops hiring. I am a CRJ Captain already and it doesn't bother me one bit. Just passing along this info. If it was me, I would appreciate this information in making a decision to come to Mesa. You guys need to take a chill pill on this board.
10-18-2014 | 01:00 PM
#3542
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I find that hard to believe. The CRJ maybe getting closer to being staffed but the EJET most certainly is not. By the end of December we will have around 15 airplanes online and 75 FOs on property, with maybe about 55 of those actually online, the rest still in the training pipeline. At 5 FOs per airplane, we need 75 FOs for 15 planes. Unless deliveries slow down significantly, we will be behind on staffing.
Oh I just forgot, the rest of our EJETS are going to XJT, that's why we won't need any more pilots for it. Mhmm.
Oh I just forgot, the rest of our EJETS are going to XJT, that's why we won't need any more pilots for it. Mhmm.
10-18-2014 | 01:02 PM
#3543
Chief Engineer
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From: CRJ FO
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Yea I smell bull poop.
Like I care when Mesa stops hiring. I am a CRJ Captain already and it doesn't bother me one bit. Just passing along this info. If it was me, I would appreciate this information in making a decision to come to Mesa. You guys need to take a chill pill on this board.
Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Yea I smell bull poop.
Like I care when Mesa stops hiring. I am a CRJ Captain already and it doesn't bother me one bit. Just passing along this info. If it was me, I would appreciate this information in making a decision to come to Mesa. You guys need to take a chill pill on this board.
10-18-2014 | 01:04 PM
#3544
Gets Weekends Off
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From: Airbus FO
I find that hard to believe. The CRJ maybe getting closer to being staffed but the EJET most certainly is not. By the end of December we will have around 15 airplanes online and 75 FOs on property, with maybe about 55 of those actually online, the rest still in the training pipeline. At 5 FOs per airplane, we need 75 FOs for 15 planes. Unless deliveries slow down significantly, we will be behind on staffing.
10-18-2014 | 01:09 PM
#3545
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If they do suspend hiring, I can't see it being for more than a month or two. I think we run out of Flight Safety entitlement training at the end of January. Maybe they need time to get our own program up and running before they continue hiring.
10-18-2014 | 01:16 PM
#3546
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From: CRJ FO
Mesa
Well there goes my January class date. Though I just texted my recruiter contact to see what any of this means. Though he sucks ass at texting back sometimes.
10-18-2014 | 01:36 PM
#3547
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From: CRJ FO
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Got an e mail back already and was told that the CRJ staffing model goes well into 2015.
10-18-2014 | 01:39 PM
#3548
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From: 175 Left
hahah, so this is confirmed or no?
wt8410481904 maybe right as we are really fat FOs on the CRJ side... looking at 20+ each day RSVs in IAD.
Also another thing to be pointed out... newly upgraded EJET CAs are flying their first 100 hours with an initial cadre Captain to avoid any green on green issues with new FO's.
So they're essentially not needing FOs on the EJET side for the first 100 hours of every new CAs flying outta IAH.
edit: just spoke with a friend who's on he EJET as an FO. Says all the guys are getting their trips bought off by the company for upgrade IOE and first 100 hours.....
Last edited by prior121; 10-18-2014 at 02:16 PM.
10-18-2014 | 02:10 PM
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I think that's an exaggeration. Browsing FT Web for the next 3 days, there are a couple of captain on captain flights where the FO listed is a check airman. Other than that, there are 3 FOs doing IOE and the rest of the right seats are being flown by senior line holder FOs, and with non check airman from what I can tell. The EJET currently has a deviation from the 75 hour green on green rule. Granted, 3 days is only a snapshot, but it's a pointer in the right direction.
The way IOE is working is the company holds back all the trips being assigned to IOE check airman from being assigned to FOs. That way there is no real "dropped for IOE". They then place IOE students on the schedule as they need to. There maybe SOME dropped for IOE going on for odd cases, but it's not the norm.
The way IOE is working is the company holds back all the trips being assigned to IOE check airman from being assigned to FOs. That way there is no real "dropped for IOE". They then place IOE students on the schedule as they need to. There maybe SOME dropped for IOE going on for odd cases, but it's not the norm.
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10-18-2014 | 03:14 PM
#3550
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I find that hard to believe. The CRJ maybe getting closer to being staffed but the EJET most certainly is not. By the end of December we will have around 15 airplanes online and 75 FOs on property, with maybe about 55 of those actually online, the rest still in the training pipeline. At 5 FOs per airplane, we need 75 FOs for 15 planes. Unless deliveries slow down significantly, we will be behind on staffing.
Oh I just forgot, the rest of our EJETS are going to XJT, that's why we won't need any more pilots for it. Mhmm.
Oh I just forgot, the rest of our EJETS are going to XJT, that's why we won't need any more pilots for it. Mhmm.
Dulles has 20 aircraft and 90-something FO's. By the end of October, it will be approaching 115 FO's. By the end of November, I estimate around 150-160 FO's. Admittedly, it could be lower if guys take their sweet time in or fail IOE. But that's a ratio of 8 FO's per airplane.
Phoenix has 26 aircraft and only 90 FO's. That's 3.46 FO's per plane, or 40 FO's understaffed. Meanwhile, Dulles is primed to be overstaffed by 60 First Officers by the end of next month. So, good job Standing Bid?
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