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Old 12-16-2014, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
Are you guys AQP?
Yes

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Old 12-16-2014, 01:30 PM
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50-60% pass rate under AQP? Whoa nelly. You have to admit that's pretty crazy.
Yeah that shouldn't be. Maybe it's due to the quality they're hiring?(not flaming)
the AQP program isn't going away correct?
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter View Post
50-60% pass rate under AQP? Whoa nelly. You have to admit that's pretty crazy.
With an initial type ride no retry on a maneuver as it has been before.

Recurrent will still be AQP.
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With an initial type ride no retry on a maneuver as it has been before.

Recurrent will still be AQP.
Initial is no longer AQP?
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:38 PM
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Initial is no longer AQP?
It's still AQP. If prior121's info is legit, they'll just update the training standards to not allow re-tries/TTPs (train to proficiency) on the initial type ride.

I.e. if you're +100 feet off on your altitude on your steep turns, or go below an altitude, or can't maintain +/-5 degrees during your initial checkride, it's a bust--no do-overs. Personally, on your first checkride, that's probably how it should be.

Pretty sure the FAA has a say on what standards/tolerances an AQP program allows. If they want no do-overs on initial checkrides, Mesa will comply, regardless of whether it's an AQP or traditional training program.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed View Post
It's still AQP. If prior121's info is legit, they'll just update the training standards to not allow re-tries/TTPs (train to proficiency) on the initial type ride.

I.e. if you're +100 feet off on your altitude on your steep turns, or go below an altitude, or can't maintain +/-5 degrees during your initial checkride, it's a bust--no do-overs. Personally, on your first checkride, that's probably how it should be.

Pretty sure the FAA has a say on what standards/tolerances an AQP program allows. If they want no do-overs on initial checkrides, Mesa will comply, regardless of whether it's an AQP or traditional training program.
What are common things people bust during initial 121 types? Altitude/heading deviations? What else?
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:36 PM
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Wondering if any mesa guys could pm me have a couple of questions. Thanks!
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Wondering if any mesa guys could pm me have a couple of questions. Thanks!
Ask. Other people can benefit from the questions and answers. That's what this forum is for, despite popular belief that it is for bashing new hires, complaining, etc.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:21 PM
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So, just to clarify one could bust a maneuver in initial. But could still be retrained afterwards and allowed another ride? Or would you get fired..
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Awesome write up, thanks!
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