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05-12-2015 | 03:56 PM
#8152
West Coast livin
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Captain
New word from the recruiting department. Numbers to try and get new pilots are low. The pilot shortage is impacting not only Mesa but other airlines as well. Despite this, some interview types are now telling recruiting they want the E-jet or nothing at all. While in times past, Mesa would try to accomodate, that is no longer the case.
If you get a job offer then say I want _ or nothing else, Mesa is now moving on. They will tell you they are no longer interested and move on to the next person. Remember, if you get hired into the CRJ 900 (CL65) you should take it. You can upgrade as a Captain into the E-jet as soon as you reach 1000 TT part 121. (so if you already have X amount of hours, think how fast you can make Captain-in fact some guys that were just hired in will be back as soon as F.O. training is done and will be bidding open Captain seats.) Don't shoot yourself in the foot. See the bigger picture.
Well I hope this helps someone, upgrades are going on like mad right now here, and a special note to PSA guys, if you just got hired at PSA or any other carrier and are in training limbo, you may want to consider coming here.
(After reading this, I sound like a recruiter, but if it helps someone who's looking for a job, more power to ya!)
If you get a job offer then say I want _ or nothing else, Mesa is now moving on. They will tell you they are no longer interested and move on to the next person. Remember, if you get hired into the CRJ 900 (CL65) you should take it. You can upgrade as a Captain into the E-jet as soon as you reach 1000 TT part 121. (so if you already have X amount of hours, think how fast you can make Captain-in fact some guys that were just hired in will be back as soon as F.O. training is done and will be bidding open Captain seats.) Don't shoot yourself in the foot. See the bigger picture.
Well I hope this helps someone, upgrades are going on like mad right now here, and a special note to PSA guys, if you just got hired at PSA or any other carrier and are in training limbo, you may want to consider coming here.
(After reading this, I sound like a recruiter, but if it helps someone who's looking for a job, more power to ya!)
05-12-2015 | 04:07 PM
#8153
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: 737 RIGHT SEAT
Unless more flying and aircraft are awarded to Mesa, the upgrades will stop soon. Only 7 CRJ's and 6 more Ejets are on their way. Recruiting will tell you what you want to hear, don't be fooled!
05-12-2015 | 04:10 PM
#8154
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,300
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From: Seat 0B
Agreed, and this applies to any airline. Bases & upgrades can't truly be promised.
05-12-2015 | 04:13 PM
#8155
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2013
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And there has not been a single FO who has completed training and then gone straight into upgrade training. Shortest upgrade time to date has been 8 months.
05-12-2015 | 04:13 PM
#8156
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 310
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New word from the recruiting department. Numbers to try and get new pilots are low. The pilot shortage is impacting not only Mesa but other airlines as well. Despite this, some interview types are now telling recruiting they want the E-jet or nothing at all. While in times past, Mesa would try to accomodate, that is no longer the case.
If you get a job offer then say I want _ or nothing else, Mesa is now moving on. They will tell you they are no longer interested and move on to the next person. Remember, if you get hired into the CRJ 900 (CL65) you should take it. You can upgrade as a Captain into the E-jet as soon as you reach 1000 TT part 121. (so if you already have X amount of hours, think how fast you can make Captain-in fact some guys that were just hired in will be back as soon as F.O. training is done and will be bidding open Captain seats.) Don't shoot yourself in the foot. See the bigger picture.
Well I hope this helps someone, upgrades are going on like mad right now here, and a special note to PSA guys, if you just got hired at PSA or any other carrier and are in training limbo, you may want to consider coming here.
(After reading this, I sound like a recruiter, but if it helps someone who's looking for a job, more power to ya!)
If you get a job offer then say I want _ or nothing else, Mesa is now moving on. They will tell you they are no longer interested and move on to the next person. Remember, if you get hired into the CRJ 900 (CL65) you should take it. You can upgrade as a Captain into the E-jet as soon as you reach 1000 TT part 121. (so if you already have X amount of hours, think how fast you can make Captain-in fact some guys that were just hired in will be back as soon as F.O. training is done and will be bidding open Captain seats.) Don't shoot yourself in the foot. See the bigger picture.
Well I hope this helps someone, upgrades are going on like mad right now here, and a special note to PSA guys, if you just got hired at PSA or any other carrier and are in training limbo, you may want to consider coming here.
(After reading this, I sound like a recruiter, but if it helps someone who's looking for a job, more power to ya!)
If I was on the fence and read this I would go talk to SKW or CPZ.
Also, how many upgrades do we have who are less than 12 months? None on the ejet. Only a handful on the crj. Go away and continue to be horrible about calling people back, having no social media presence (where all the college kids hang out), and being terrible at your job. I think we have the industry's worst recruiters. I don't know how ornstein puts up with it. Pathetic. Even blojet attracts and dupes a lot of college kids with their decent recruiting on Facebook.
05-12-2015 | 04:20 PM
#8157
West Coast livin
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 984
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From: Captain
I am here witnessing this first hand. What you said about the current fleet and trying to staff is true. Rumors are floating about more flying but its' just that -rumors. The recruiters I spoke with did not try to bovine fecal matter me about that. Just want to help other people out, so if I can hey fine.
If someone calls or gets a call from recruiting, ask them about your concerns and see what they say. No one blew unicorn and sunshine up my glutes, they were straight up with me. Ok gotta go anyone wanna try to get on, feel free to pm me and I will put you in contact with the right persons. take care all!
05-12-2015 | 04:23 PM
#8158
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 310
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Don't listen to this clown. If you want to live in Houston and fly ejets, tell that to the recruiters. I would love to see the company turn qualified candidates away in this environment. Especially with companies out there with better contracts and pay willing and trying to take the same candidates.
05-12-2015 | 04:33 PM
#8159
West Coast livin
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 984
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From: Captain
You just did a horrible job selling our company to potential candidates. You sound like a recruiter, but are bad at your job. So, you must be a Mesa recruiter. Your spin trying to say our desperation for pilots results in our being selective about who we hire and into what airframe is asinine. You are basically saying people who want to come here for a specific airframe/location (ejet in Houston) should instead be satisfied with flying the crj in an abortion of an operation that is DFW and hope we get more ejets so they can upgrade into it. Our most junior ejet guy waiting to upgrade is a May of 14 hire, with his upgrade class being held back due to lack of FOs.
If I was on the fence and read this I would go talk to SKW or CPZ.
Also, how many upgrades do we have who are less than 12 months? None on the ejet. Only a handful on the crj. Go away and continue to be horrible about calling people back, having no social media presence (where all the college kids hang out), and being terrible at your job. I think we have the industry's worst recruiters. I don't know how ornstein puts up with it. Pathetic. Even blojet attracts and dupes a lot of college kids with their decent recruiting on Facebook.
If I was on the fence and read this I would go talk to SKW or CPZ.
Also, how many upgrades do we have who are less than 12 months? None on the ejet. Only a handful on the crj. Go away and continue to be horrible about calling people back, having no social media presence (where all the college kids hang out), and being terrible at your job. I think we have the industry's worst recruiters. I don't know how ornstein puts up with it. Pathetic. Even blojet attracts and dupes a lot of college kids with their decent recruiting on Facebook.
Face I am sure your a .................................pleasure to fly with, but are you always so .............................negative??? Remember face, no matter what -when those brownie downies try to make you feel sad, say, I AM GOOD ENOUGH, I AM SMART ENOUGH AND GOSH DARN IT-PEOPLE LIKE ME!!!!!!!!!
https://youtu.be/-DIETlxquzY
Too saucy? Maybe this one will help
https://youtu.be/KmpMO2dJQ6Q
Ok here's one that people really like
https://youtu.be/87T-1MvquNE
Have a snappy new day face!!!!
Last edited by On Autopilot; 05-12-2015 at 04:44 PM. Reason: trying to help face overcome his negative emotions
05-12-2015 | 05:21 PM
#8160
Respek
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,938
Likes: 76
Don't listen to this clown. If you want to live in Houston and fly ejets, tell that to the recruiters. I would love to see the company turn qualified candidates away in this environment. Especially with companies out there with better contracts and pay willing and trying to take the same candidates.
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