What the f did you guys expect? To all of a sudden become like everyone else?

 

Agreed. Read the details once it comes out guys, make educated decisions. Sitting cross armed in the Dulles crewroom because, "Hey that's what the 50 something lifer is voting/doing," makes you look like an uneducated twat.

 

What happened to the last few posts that included a link to the Mesa ALPA site with lines? I didn't get a chance to bookmark that. As for the TA summary, wow. I'll reserve final judgment until the full language is released, but right now I'm unimpressed and frustrated at how little progress was made.

So, a 1% increase in pay? The last bullet point seems to suggest it's different for FO's; a 1% increase from $22.18 is $22.40, so I'd hope so. Still, that's pretty pathetic. SkyWest is what, $30/hour first year and soon to go up to $36? We're not asking for industry leading, but that lags so far behind it's absurd.

.........K.

o From $1.47?
o Whatever
o WE SHOULDN'T NEED TO NEGOTIATE FOR THAT

Deadheads are still paid at 50%???

I thought that's what it was.

As for scheduling, there's a bunch of little gains in insignificant areas and a few decent gains for a small amount of the overall pilot group. That was supposed to be BIG section, the one that dramatically improved our QOL. There's not even a min day. And did we really neglect to add any language about hotel quality? What about those stupid arbitrary reserve buffers? I think we're going to need to send this back.

 

What did you expect? A pay cut???

 

"if the company extends"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those are the key words to look for guys!!!!!!!

This will never happen. Be careful reading this increase its what they call a teaser clause. Something they put in the contract that they never intend to use. Just like "in the best interest of the company" or "at company's discretion". Those of you who have been at Mesa know what I mean from the last contract language and why if you leave it up to Mesa you didn't get anything.

So that leaves to be said, why would Mesa extend it by a year and pay 5 percent more, when they could just go into negotiations that will probably take 5-6 years anyway for 5 percent less for every single year they can stall. We just had a 2 year contract that took 5 years of negotiations to get this. Total of 7 years guys that Mesa had at the current pay rates. Mesa won't even give us a 5 percent increase initially for this 5 year contract! No way Mesa extends it for just another year for a 5 percent rate hike only to go into negotiations and then have to pay the new 5 percent rates while negotiations are taking place! That would be insane on Mesa's part. Its a teaser clause. Of course Mesa will agree to the option just to sell this current contract but they won't actually do it.
How about a 5 percent raise at the end of the contract clause with no catch...

 

The PDF of the real TA should be out by the beginning of next week.

 

Looking at the executive summary....anyone who votes yes for this TA is a moe-ron!

 

This TA is barely a new contract. It never should have passed to be put out to vote on.

 

I apologize. I did not mean to insult moe-rons.

 

For the most part things the company should be doing anyway. They aren't serious about recruiting more people. I'll wait until I make my final decision but my stock is heavily going towards a no right now.