I know what you're saying.
I've only been here for a week, do I have a voice yet?
I would be lucky if my concerns were even entertained by the union, or the company.
But, if I can take the pulse of our pilot group, and share an experience?
This feels like the place to do it.... Until I make more friends and get some clout in the company.
In the mean time?
I have at least a year to form my stay strategy, or my exit strategy.

 

I don't think he's calling just anyone out Freq. Nor am I. Only the ones who need a little "guidance" in understanding where to focus their complaints and, more importantly, their efforts. You may read back through my posts if you like and you will see that I've never complained about the conditions. Why? Because I've never tried to do anything about them. IMO, unless you're going to do something about it then you have no business complaining. The rest of us already know, and we don't need to hear about it otherwise, right? And, I DO credit him for pressing the union guy for not giving acceptable answers to his questions. That's the correct approach instead of slapping new hires. When a union rep just throws his arms up and says " ... because that's just the way it is guys, what do you expect us to do?" (which I've also seen while here at Mesa), the last response he should get is a silent audience that just says "oooookaayyyy" in their minds (seen that one too). The right response is "I don't know right off, that's what we're paying YOU to figure out but, I can tell you that standing here and telling me 'that's just the way it is' ...that definitely ain't it!"

 

"....get some clout in the company."?

Really?

 

Fair enough. Good post.

 

Do you know what is funny? You guys think that because they are filling classes, that they are going to fill there contracts. They are hiring just enough people to cover attrition. A lot of the guys on the senority list have not even been through ioe. We had a 20% fail rate in our class. If they are covering everything they need, than why all of the goodies for new hires???

 

The senority list has been hovering around 1200 for the last few months.

 

Interesting. There was a guy also using the handle of 'LT Dan' in a December 2015 new hire class.

 

So you picked the lowest paid company and you think you're going to make a difference? Oh dear.

 

So you've been here 2 weeks and you've already decided your not getting enough information handed to you? Let's start with you still have t even processed through national to get on the email chains.

And with your wonderful 2 weeks of experience you've already decided that you know everything about what alpa is and isn't doing to make your life better.

Must be super awesome to be that smart and so well versed in airline operations and the railway labor act after 2 weeks here.

 

So why not run for the mec chair? You seem to know the answers, how exactly is the union suppose to magically make all your dreams come true and make jo roll over and admit his last 30+ years of business strategy is bad?