To VSP or not to VSP?
#91
If I were you LossofClockData and you knew you did not want to make the Air Force a career and the airlines were where you wanted to be then I would try and VSP, get hired by a Regional to build your time, and also get hired by a UAV guard/reserve unit so you can supplement your Regional income and still have Tricare for your family.
#92
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
If I were you LossofClockData and you knew you did not want to make the Air Force a career and the airlines were where you wanted to be then I would try and VSP, get hired by a Regional to build your time, and also get hired by a UAV guard/reserve unit so you can supplement your Regional income and still have Tricare for your family.
#93
Thanks ghilis. I used your previous post to calculate hours. Sitting about 1400 TT. Need to do more work on PIC time based on MP code date. I suppose I could pull the restricted ATP with the 750 mil clause. Would that be worthwhile or should I start working on logging those 100 hrs on my own? Also, do you need a full ATP cert like you can get with some of those 2-5 day programs or just the written. Looking for example at horizon it just says written.
#94
If your harms printout says more than 1500 hrs, you can get your unrestricted ATP because I think you can include other time for that purpose. But you would be hired by any regional airline tomorrow if you applied, and I think now that it's required, they'll give you your ATP in training, or at least some of them will. It's absolutely worth it whether you choose to get it on your own now or through a regional.
#95
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,504
If your harms printout says more than 1500 hrs, you can get your unrestricted ATP because I think you can include other time for that purpose. But you would be hired by any regional airline tomorrow if you applied, and I think now that it's required, they'll give you your ATP in training, or at least some of them will. It's absolutely worth it whether you choose to get it on your own now or through a regional.
#96
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 37
Here's my experience with the VSP.
I wanted more than what AD life had to offer so took the VSP back in 2007 with nearly 10 years of service. It was around 120K before taxes. I didn't spend a penny and slowly invested it over about 3 years.
I was hired right away and made a clean break from the military. Life was satisfactory. After a year at my airline, I applied for a job at my hometown Guard unit. Absolutely love it. I split my time about 50/50 and life is good to very good. I know I'll be paying the VSP back in small allotments upon receiving my first retirement check at age 60, but I am working to make sure that is painless. If you consider it a loan, it's a damn good deal.
Someone mentioned insurance. I occasionally take some 30-60 day orders and get six months of TAMP (Tricare) at no cost. Otherwise, Tricare Reserve Selects costs my family about $200 a month. Also, I did 180 days of orders a couple years ago and no one asked for my VSP.
You will eventually get hired, but you won't always be able to VSP. I'd say take it, get a Guard/Reserve gig, and get a few hours at a Regional while you're waiting. In speaking with friends, it seems the consensus is the quality of life/career is deteriorating more quickly in the ADAF than the airlines.
Good Luck!
I wanted more than what AD life had to offer so took the VSP back in 2007 with nearly 10 years of service. It was around 120K before taxes. I didn't spend a penny and slowly invested it over about 3 years.
I was hired right away and made a clean break from the military. Life was satisfactory. After a year at my airline, I applied for a job at my hometown Guard unit. Absolutely love it. I split my time about 50/50 and life is good to very good. I know I'll be paying the VSP back in small allotments upon receiving my first retirement check at age 60, but I am working to make sure that is painless. If you consider it a loan, it's a damn good deal.
Someone mentioned insurance. I occasionally take some 30-60 day orders and get six months of TAMP (Tricare) at no cost. Otherwise, Tricare Reserve Selects costs my family about $200 a month. Also, I did 180 days of orders a couple years ago and no one asked for my VSP.
You will eventually get hired, but you won't always be able to VSP. I'd say take it, get a Guard/Reserve gig, and get a few hours at a Regional while you're waiting. In speaking with friends, it seems the consensus is the quality of life/career is deteriorating more quickly in the ADAF than the airlines.
Good Luck!
#97
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 15
But you would be hired by any regional airline tomorrow if you applied, and I think now that it's required, they'll give you your ATP in training, or at least some of them will. It's absolutely worth it whether you choose to get it on your own now or through a regional.[/QUOTE]
Interesting. I was thinking they are fairly picky right now from what everyone else was saying, but perhaps that's just the majors.
Interesting. I was thinking they are fairly picky right now from what everyone else was saying, but perhaps that's just the majors.
#98
But you would be hired by any regional airline tomorrow if you applied, and I think now that it's required, they'll give you your ATP in training, or at least some of them will. It's absolutely worth it whether you choose to get it on your own now or through a regional.
Everything I've read is that the Regional's can't find enough qualified applicants right now.
#99
Well, FWIW, I have been at United for almost a year and recently got a rejection letter from Compass since my airlineapps account is still in good standing. They said they were "seeking more highly qualified applicants at this time." I did send them a humorous reply, however.
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