Tweetdrvr

I also believe the payback applies to any type of military retirement. So if you get a traditional guard/reserve retirement at age 60, you will also pay that back. This could be a financial hit for someone who was not planning for it, if they truly retire and don't work until age 65 or the new FAR that will probably be here in 2030 of fly until you die

Moosecall

I received a response from SWA on this issue. They said to go ahead and put any student/dual/UPT in the SIC column because it should be included in your total time. Hope that clears it up and gives a couple hundred hour boost to those that were excluding it.

WARich

Someone told me a while back to not include my UPT time, so I haven't been. I'm sure that is totally incorrect, but hey, I have a good 200 hrs that I can dip into if needed for my total time.

LossofClockData

All good information here, but now I'm more worried than before I put in my VSP package. Former C-17s stuck in RPA with no end in sight. Family just can't stand Cannon anymore, with prospect of Holloman as next assignment. Back to MAF chances look abysmal. Looking at JBLM Reserve and regional in the NW, but the RPA stink puts me at a significant disadvantage. 1500 C-17 hours, but have to subtract 450 other time. Only about 200 PIC in C-17. I very much doubt any MQ-1 PIC/IP time will count for jack**** with the airlines, but feel free to throw spears for me mentioning it. Plus I hit 35 months from my last C-17 flight which by the time I get out, any reserve unit will need to pay for an Altus requal for me (39 months non-current or unqualed?) Maybe I should retract that app, but then again I'll gladly work at Lowes? Anyone see a silver lining here?

LossofClockData

That's good to hear, but on the other side of this discussion would you say someone who has been out of a specific unit's aircraft for over three years isn't very attractive due to needing a full requal? Also, is the going perspective of guard/reserve on RPA guys that "he must have been a total DB if he got sent to RPA?"

Gilligan13

Why would you have to go back to Holloman?

FlyFastLiveSlow

There's hiring going on everywhere right now except the USAF. Not many will get handed an easy job, but plenty of openings for guys working their way up. I see much more opportunity outside of AD Air Force for at least the next several years.

LossofClockData

Since Cannon is the only AFSOC RPA base the functional either has to commit to sending us to ACC, AFSOC staff or another AFSOC asset. Doesn't help to prop up AFSOC RPA for the future, so they figure any IP could at least train the AFSOC RPA of the future, thus a bit of a win for big blue and AFSOC in general.

ghilis101

you don't have to subtract the OTHER time when you were the PIC. Your other time in that case still goes in the PIC column. when you sign for a jet, youre always the PIC, even when youre not at the controls. The FAA is on board with this (I fly supplemental 121 where I often am not in the seat in legs greater than 8 hours, but still in command). You only need to subtract the other time when you were a copilot/first pilot, or not the PIC.

also don't worry about recency of experience, you could go over to Trans States, SkyWest, or some other regional airline to pick up a few months worth of flight time. A lot of regionals don't care when you last flew, they just care that you have a pulse, and I bet if you didn't have a pulse theyd still hire you

LossofClockData

Thanks ghilis. I used your previous post to calculate hours. Sitting about 1400 TT. Need to do more work on PIC time based on MP code date. I suppose I could pull the restricted ATP with the 750 mil clause. Would that be worthwhile or should I start working on logging those 100 hrs on my own? Also, do you need a full ATP cert like you can get with some of those 2-5 day programs or just the written. Looking for example at horizon it just says written.