“not much is” - idk what you’re referring to. I’m talking about one thing.

Fix it? Bonus per leg or count the turn times as flight somehow. Smaller fleets have to do more flights to reach 12.1. With the turn times in between, there is less opportunity in a duty day to accrue flight time.

The smaller aircraft do better than the large cabin aircraft when it comes to FDP. This information was verified by company and union negotiators. If a phenom were to do 5 flights with a one hour flight time they would credit 6 hours of FDP. (taxi time of .2 plus flight time) A global doing one 5 hour flight would only credit 5.2 FDP.

Before anyone gets excited, I think we should get more for taxi time at the big airports and block or better would be awesome. Let’s debate the facts and not what we think the facts should or shouldn’t be.

Surely the obvious answer would be: Pay for duty time.

It would then be up to scheduling to use that duty time productively. And I bet we would all see less hot spare (FBO rot).

We would see fewer max duty/min rest days, too.

He will make the same in year 2 (without SDP pay but WITH FDP pay). And it only gets better from there. Not counting the defined benefit and the defined contribution.

It was actually an 18 year Captain (2001 hire) but who’s counting 😉.

That’s at least 10 15+ year Captains in the last 12 months. Plus what NJ did to a 20+ year Captain recently, well, tells you a lot. No heart, no soul, completely ruthless. I don’t know how can AJ, Clown (Bobo), Dave B and the others sleep at night (well I do, they have no scrupulous, soul, etc). They will get what is coming to them.

I was trying to be nice lol.

It’s hard to blame management when the pilot group is who approves of the abuse. Management is gonna do what management does, that’s every company. NJASAP is powerless and the pilot group agrees with whatever the union says, and the union does whatever management says.

I’ll take 5.2 FDP for one single flight over having to do 5 flights for 6 FDP, any day.

100% correct! You get what you negotiate... not what you think you deserve or what you always want. That applies to ANY place you fly.

I’ve said many many times that NetJet pilots are a high quality and proven commodity in the aviation world. Airlines of all types are hiring them because of their safety record and work ethic....

I look back on my 12 years there and I’m thankful I was in my 30s and 40s and healthy, because I’ve NEVER worked so hard flying airplanes. NetJets Pilots work.... hard.




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They work too hard. They live to work, not work to live. To the point that so many of the pilot group swallowed the management narrative that they cant have nice things, because pilots are "lazy" and fatigue too much. I agree, there are some amazing pilots at NetJets but the rank and file seem to lack confidence, and in some cases, intelligence.