I am 30 and in a full-time professional pilot program. I am changing careers after being in law enforcement for the past 10 years, but I am about a couple of years from being able to apply to the regionals or NetJets anyways. I do understand things in the aviation industry change fast, but part of my early planning is due to having a spouse and kid - so I would like to sort of forecast at least a few things.

I am considering airlines as well, but I have been pretty obsessed with fractional/corporate style aviation for quite a while. Whether its the aircraft, the purpose, or the people you fly; it's sort have been something that interests me.

Do most NetJets candidates come from the regionals?

Would NetJets hire a candidate with the published minimums (2500TT/500ME/250INST) without turbine time?

Again, just looking for some honest and professional advice or mentorship sort of. I understand things may be well different in 1.5-2 years. Thanks!

 

Netjets has pilots with a wide variety of backgrounds. Probably about half or more have previous 121 experience from regionals and/or majors. About a third are ex military, and the rest are ex corporate or freight dog.

You can certainly apply with the minimums but you won’t be competitive at all without turbine time.

Hope this helps. Good luck with your new endeavor.

 

I don't know for sure but I do know they recently turned down giving a waiver for the requirements you list to an Air Force Fighter Pilot (I think it may be insurance related and how they sell their pilots experience to the owners???). I see a lot of guys coming from other Fractional's here, there are some regional guys here as well, PIC types. Training curve was pretty steep in the sim with some maneuvers done on Sim 1 not seen again till the type ride. I'd apply!

 

Now that a few months have passed since the amendment to the CBA, would someone like to offer a realistic year 1 total gross salary estimate on the 7&7?

 

Year 12 FO on 76 now makes year 3 FO NB FO at UAL. That’s a vast improvement over before where they made year 2 FO. Of course UAL gets a new contract soon so it will most likely go back down to year 2.

Think I’m kidding?
UAL year 3 pay 164 x 85 x 12 is 167280

Year 12 FO 76
138418 x 1.03(8 day tour override) x 1.15(claimed 15 percent pay override) gets you 163956

So there ya have it folks. I have not seen 15 percent extra pay but people claim 20 percent do I split the difference.

Oops I misread the post. The 7/7 will get ya about 122446 at year 12. Year 1 would get ya around 75K. Have a friend who is saying that’s what he is planning on pay after a month of 7/7 and extra pay.

 

I understand that the major airlines have substantially higher compensation, I was just hoping a year 1 F.O. could do the math on his / her Q1 gross earnings and multiply by 4 to get a rough estimate all things considered. Including the extra pay after 12 hours on tour, arriving at base late, night flying, holidays etc.

Just looking for a rough ballpark figure. I'm guessing around $100k now? I know the base salary is $63,800 but that doesn't include any soft pay etc.

 

Add 20k to the base salaries you see on APC, and that’s generous.

 

A new hire will be on the 18 day training schedule through IOE, ballpark 3 months until awarded 7-7. Figure about 7-10% soft money for holidays, regular OT, maybe the odd after-midnight. Then add another $8-10K-ish of FDPP and night pay during their 9 months on the line (33% of which goes to 401K, not paycheck).

By my admittedly ROUGH math, a new-hire can realistically bank on about $85-90K first year. Maybe a touch more if they end up in a busy fleet and make extra FDPP.

Someone with a sharper pencil can probably fine tune that a bit. But don’t even THINK about including per diem in the calculation please...

 

I’ve done my voodoo math and it is in the same ballpark as yours. 85k for the 7/7, 92k for the CC72, 96 for the CC76.

 

That sounds about right.