727C47

Good on you , indeed this place works for some people, for some it doesn’t, (some of them still haunt these boards like angry ghosts : ) ) , but it has evolved into a better job than it was when I first returned from furlough in 2015, most of the folks I fly in my fleet ( XL/ XLS ) are mid level business types , low stress, 98% of my pax are no stress. The flying is challenging, everything from Aspen, and JFK, to little Unicom 4000’ strips in the boonies, good peeps in my fleet , if it floats your boat, go for it. Cheers out 😎

av8trinabarrel

True statement, but after 10 years I was still sitting 250 from the bottom at NetJets when I left and still in the middle of the f-low firing zone. Totally unsat.

Shenzi105

Don't seem to having any liking for people with money who can afford flying bizjet apparently. Obviously not a good fit for a company flying the 1-percenter.

No difference between the hassle of 7 days on the road not knowing where you're going to sleep (who cares, you're at work) and the 5-6 days reserve at the airlines (I heard not every airline pilot flies for a Major/Legacy... apparently).

As far as passenger pretending you don't exist and not giving a dam about your announcement or your crew's safety briefing... welcome to the airline.

For sure not everyone is up to being in the service industry, not everyone is good at working with smaller groups/individuals. For sure life is so honky dory at the airlines, it's a blast.

btw, I have 3 good friends at NJA, been there for 15+ years and still enjoying the job and still happy with their choices. Not every job is for everyone, but I have a tendency of being cautious with judgmental peeps.

flyboy041

Yeah it’s not the same as the majors. Whoever says that has no idea. Maybe the regionals. But the sad truth is that you work much much harder for less pay at Netjets than any of the big 4.

wankel7

Are you counting being on reserve at home and not getting called out in your 190 hours per month?

DH2time

Well I average about 200 hours away from home myself at my airline. The trips are compressed and are only 3 days long. So 4X50=200. At NJ. I worked 76CC so that was 21 days a month and well over 375 hours away from home. Pay is more at the airline than year 12 on 76CC.

It’s just simple math. You work harder for less money at NJ. If you are good with it go for it. Personally I didn’t like being a aircraft stocker, cleaner, bag loader, ground transport specialist, communications manager and then a pilot. But like I said if the airline to and from your home base is worth the trade off go for it no matter what anyone on this site says.

Good luck!

727C47

Yes indeed it comes down to each their own, the majority of the peeps I fly with at the Net are pretty happy with their current state of play, those who aren’t have their apps out, I’ve flown 121 ( 727 pax, 747 boxes ) and loved both jobs with a passion, indeed if my 727 gig had not vanished into the archives I’d still be there today, and if my 747 monthly global pub crawl didn’t take me away more than 14 days a month I’d still be there, but I enjoy NJA with all its flaws and challenges, and in my personal situation, a 2 pilot household, a 7&7 sched that I can hang my hat on 9 months out is invaluable for planning, so to each their own, with blessings on both, you will never see ,or hear me trashing 121 , it rocks, indeed it’s ALL good, cheers out!

Guard

True statement you work 10-12 hour days here, but with the new FDP you want to be working hard.If I'm on the road for 7 days I want to work. I have basically had a third pay check every month since the new contract. You're not going to fly 30 hrs in 7 days at a major but you will at NJA. For me its all about not commuting. Also you know your schedule a year out. FDP has changed the company from what I see!

Retractable

Each to their own.

Many of us come to work to provide for our families... and we’re doing just that.

Many of our small cabin pilots are shattering what is being made by legacy single aisle captains. The 350, Latitude and even Phenom are allowing crews to make a lot of money these days but yes... you need to be able to think on your feet and delegate cleaning, loading and related duties to our FBO and service partners when it’s more than a few bags or light cleaning. Yes, there will be some stocking. Yes, that’s private aviation and has been for a long time.

That being said, morale is as high as one allows themselves. Pilots have every reason to feel more optimistic as well and many are quite happy with the new program and look forward to the next round of enhancements that will further solidify the companies performance and lead to the equivalent of “profit sharing” in subsequent years.

#profitsharingnotjustfordeltapilots

DH2time

Well we all agree then, whatever makes it better for your family means no explaining needs to be done.

Now there is no way any NJ guy is “shattering” what a NB captain makes.

If a WN captain at year 12 bids a line making min of 87 trips per month for a year and has no re assignments, changes or try’s to better ones line they will still make 241K/ year. If they fly the average trips per month they will make 296K. Now the lines are built for min 15 off but most lines average more than that.

Using a 7/7 schedule as it has around same amount of work days the NJ PIC guy makes 157K per year. If they get 35 percent more pay that gets them to 212K.

So do what you want and enjoy where you are...just don’t make up numbers to justify ones position.