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#451
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
Posts: 2,100
I am 43 and what is most important to me is my family and time with them. I have 'been there and worn the t-shirt' on the big airplane thing. I also have around 3000+ hours of international time (real international; ocean crossing international) as well.
I am at the point where perpetual reserve, commuting and crashpads have exceedingly worn off the 'luster' of the airline pilot mantra. I want quality of life with my family. I live in TUL and a 7/7 schedule with no commuting stress is an intangible that weighs very high in my opinion.
I am at the point where perpetual reserve, commuting and crashpads have exceedingly worn off the 'luster' of the airline pilot mantra. I want quality of life with my family. I live in TUL and a 7/7 schedule with no commuting stress is an intangible that weighs very high in my opinion.
#452
True statement, but after 10 years I was still sitting 250 from the bottom at NetJets when I left and still in the middle of the f-low firing zone. Totally unsat.
#453
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2019
Position: Phenom driver
Posts: 147
What do you know about Netjets? Other than they have 7/7 schedule? Do you have friends there that can tell you exactly what’s it like on the road for 7 days? If the answer is no, then you are in for a rude awakening. Prepare to kiss some rich asses while you get the cockpit ready, Restock the airplane. Try to fit catering into the galley, clean the cabin, the lav (rich aholes don’t aim well). Load their luggages or furnitures or boxes. Now you get to do a safety briefing while they pretend you don’t even exist. Rise and repeat for each flight. Plus the millions of changes to your schedules every single day. Don’t plan on planning anything on the road. But hey whatever floats your boat. Good luck.
No difference between the hassle of 7 days on the road not knowing where you're going to sleep (who cares, you're at work) and the 5-6 days reserve at the airlines (I heard not every airline pilot flies for a Major/Legacy... apparently).
As far as passenger pretending you don't exist and not giving a dam about your announcement or your crew's safety briefing... welcome to the airline.
For sure not everyone is up to being in the service industry, not everyone is good at working with smaller groups/individuals. For sure life is so honky dory at the airlines, it's a blast.
btw, I have 3 good friends at NJA, been there for 15+ years and still enjoying the job and still happy with their choices. Not every job is for everyone, but I have a tendency of being cautious with judgmental peeps.
#454
Banned
Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 29
Don't seem to having any liking for people with money who can afford flying bizjet apparently. Obviously not a good fit for a company flying the 1-percenter.
No difference between the hassle of 7 days on the road not knowing where you're going to sleep (who cares, you're at work) and the 5-6 days reserve at the airlines (I heard not every airline pilot flies for a Major/Legacy... apparently).
As far as passenger pretending you don't exist and not giving a dam about your announcement or your crew's safety briefing... welcome to the airline.
For sure not everyone is up to being in the service industry, not everyone is good at working with smaller groups/individuals. For sure life is so honky dory at the airlines, it's a blast.
btw, I have 3 good friends at NJA, been there for 15+ years and still enjoying the job and still happy with their choices. Not every job is for everyone, but I have a tendency of being cautious with judgmental peeps.
No difference between the hassle of 7 days on the road not knowing where you're going to sleep (who cares, you're at work) and the 5-6 days reserve at the airlines (I heard not every airline pilot flies for a Major/Legacy... apparently).
As far as passenger pretending you don't exist and not giving a dam about your announcement or your crew's safety briefing... welcome to the airline.
For sure not everyone is up to being in the service industry, not everyone is good at working with smaller groups/individuals. For sure life is so honky dory at the airlines, it's a blast.
btw, I have 3 good friends at NJA, been there for 15+ years and still enjoying the job and still happy with their choices. Not every job is for everyone, but I have a tendency of being cautious with judgmental peeps.
#455
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Weekends off
Posts: 397
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If you are willing to live in base (a junior base) with an airline you will get more time with your family. I bid the lowest work schedule with NJA (the CC52) and maxed out my vacations and PTO. With that, I still on average was away from home about 260 hours per month. Being junior at an airline I'm away from home about 190 hours per month (no vacation, no PTO).
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If you are willing to live in base (a junior base) with an airline you will get more time with your family. I bid the lowest work schedule with NJA (the CC52) and maxed out my vacations and PTO. With that, I still on average was away from home about 260 hours per month. Being junior at an airline I'm away from home about 190 hours per month (no vacation, no PTO).
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#456
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 131
Well I average about 200 hours away from home myself at my airline. The trips are compressed and are only 3 days long. So 4X50=200. At NJ. I worked 76CC so that was 21 days a month and well over 375 hours away from home. Pay is more at the airline than year 12 on 76CC.
It’s just simple math. You work harder for less money at NJ. If you are good with it go for it. Personally I didn’t like being a aircraft stocker, cleaner, bag loader, ground transport specialist, communications manager and then a pilot. But like I said if the airline to and from your home base is worth the trade off go for it no matter what anyone on this site says.
Good luck!
It’s just simple math. You work harder for less money at NJ. If you are good with it go for it. Personally I didn’t like being a aircraft stocker, cleaner, bag loader, ground transport specialist, communications manager and then a pilot. But like I said if the airline to and from your home base is worth the trade off go for it no matter what anyone on this site says.
Good luck!
#457
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
Posts: 2,100
Yes indeed it comes down to each their own, the majority of the peeps I fly with at the Net are pretty happy with their current state of play, those who aren’t have their apps out, I’ve flown 121 ( 727 pax, 747 boxes ) and loved both jobs with a passion, indeed if my 727 gig had not vanished into the archives I’d still be there today, and if my 747 monthly global pub crawl didn’t take me away more than 14 days a month I’d still be there, but I enjoy NJA with all its flaws and challenges, and in my personal situation, a 2 pilot household, a 7&7 sched that I can hang my hat on 9 months out is invaluable for planning, so to each their own, with blessings on both, you will never see ,or hear me trashing 121 , it rocks, indeed it’s ALL good, cheers out!
#458
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 313
True statement you work 10-12 hour days here, but with the new FDP you want to be working hard.If I'm on the road for 7 days I want to work. I have basically had a third pay check every month since the new contract. You're not going to fly 30 hrs in 7 days at a major but you will at NJA. For me its all about not commuting. Also you know your schedule a year out. FDP has changed the company from what I see!
#459
Banned
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 378
Well I average about 200 hours away from home myself at my airline. The trips are compressed and are only 3 days long. So 4X50=200. At NJ. I worked 76CC so that was 21 days a month and well over 375 hours away from home. Pay is more at the airline than year 12 on 76CC.
It’s just simple math. You work harder for less money at NJ. If you are good with it go for it. Personally I didn’t like being a aircraft stocker, cleaner, bag loader, ground transport specialist, communications manager and then a pilot. But like I said if the airline to and from your home base is worth the trade off go for it no matter what anyone on this site says.
Good luck!
It’s just simple math. You work harder for less money at NJ. If you are good with it go for it. Personally I didn’t like being a aircraft stocker, cleaner, bag loader, ground transport specialist, communications manager and then a pilot. But like I said if the airline to and from your home base is worth the trade off go for it no matter what anyone on this site says.
Good luck!
Each to their own.
Many of us come to work to provide for our families... and we’re doing just that.
Many of our small cabin pilots are shattering what is being made by legacy single aisle captains. The 350, Latitude and even Phenom are allowing crews to make a lot of money these days but yes... you need to be able to think on your feet and delegate cleaning, loading and related duties to our FBO and service partners when it’s more than a few bags or light cleaning. Yes, there will be some stocking. Yes, that’s private aviation and has been for a long time.
That being said, morale is as high as one allows themselves. Pilots have every reason to feel more optimistic as well and many are quite happy with the new program and look forward to the next round of enhancements that will further solidify the companies performance and lead to the equivalent of “profit sharing” in subsequent years.
#profitsharingnotjustfordeltapilots
#460
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 131
Well we all agree then, whatever makes it better for your family means no explaining needs to be done.
Now there is no way any NJ guy is “shattering” what a NB captain makes.
If a WN captain at year 12 bids a line making min of 87 trips per month for a year and has no re assignments, changes or try’s to better ones line they will still make 241K/ year. If they fly the average trips per month they will make 296K. Now the lines are built for min 15 off but most lines average more than that.
Using a 7/7 schedule as it has around same amount of work days the NJ PIC guy makes 157K per year. If they get 35 percent more pay that gets them to 212K.
So do what you want and enjoy where you are...just don’t make up numbers to justify ones position.
Now there is no way any NJ guy is “shattering” what a NB captain makes.
If a WN captain at year 12 bids a line making min of 87 trips per month for a year and has no re assignments, changes or try’s to better ones line they will still make 241K/ year. If they fly the average trips per month they will make 296K. Now the lines are built for min 15 off but most lines average more than that.
Using a 7/7 schedule as it has around same amount of work days the NJ PIC guy makes 157K per year. If they get 35 percent more pay that gets them to 212K.
So do what you want and enjoy where you are...just don’t make up numbers to justify ones position.
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