Fischman

I am a former NJA F/O (XLS) and would have been furloughed but took advantage of the voluntary measures and instead took the buyout. I am now considering applying again and have been watching this thread pretty closely. Obviously it is not the company I left, nor are they the working conditions that I left. It sounds like the variety of flying and lack of commuting that I previously enjoyed are still there, though some of the good deals may no longer be.

One question for those that have been recalled or recently hired - the confirmation e-mail seems to indicate the position is coded as a 7/7. Is the 18 day fixed also a possibility here, at least as much as the bid will allow, or is it going senior enough that it isn't a concern? How about the 15 day flex?

Also, for those that have a Signature at your base, do they still have an agreement to park there while at work? I realize my information is over a half decade old - in some ways I feel like I just woke up from a Fractional coma.

Great info on this thread - good to see things turning around. I hope the company can someday become again what it once was.

Junglejett

Dude.....dude....are you seriously using our union forum as your source? What is the percentage of active pilots who participate in those boards? Answer the question......

That forum is on par with Flightinfo.......and you take part in it?

Blueridger

Oh snap! You just nailed it! I was so off base. You're right, I should use the opinions of 3 random NJA pilots on these boards instead of the 300+ regular posters on OUR message boards to get the pulse of the pilot group.

It seems you don't even participate on our boards. Did u even participate in the bylaws vote or the bargaining survey? Did u contribute to the hostage fund, or the PAC? I doubt it. Congratulations on being a disengaged Union member who will let all the others do the heavy lifting while u hide behind your little anonymous avatar on these boards spouting how awesome your job is. I guess we won't be seeing you at any pickets anytime soon.

I'm done discussing this with you as I don't frequent these boards often and most readers seem to understand the point that I was making: that NJA is a mediocre career destination.

Blueridger

fischman,

You will initially be place on the 18 day training schedule. After that, it all depends on seniority to maintain it during the open bid but it tends to be all over the place . The 15 day is super senior and as an 8 year FO, I can't hold it in my fleet.
As far as parking goes, we have lost many Signature contracts over the last few years in some markets but the new preferred FBOs should provide parking for you at those locations.
Welcome back!

Oh, and one big disclaimer for those looking to come to NJA as new hires. You will not be granted HBA rights and will unfortunately be placed under the domicile system of 100 bases (instead of the 222 HBAs). This is due to the LOA that was signed back in 2011 that applied only to those pilots on the seniority system. Most of us are looking for universal basing and do away with the b scale tier but it will take until the next contract to get that resolved....

Packrat

Blueridger,

Is that an issue if you live in one of the 100 cities? What does universal basing consist of?

frmrdashtrash

In a nutshell it opens up airports that are not open to others.

The 2005 agreement closed home basing for future pilots and opened 5 domiciles. NJA wasn't getting as many applicants as it thought it should and during the IBB it opened up 100 airports as bases for those of us who were hired after home basing went away (those on property before were grandfathered).

A LOA was signed in 2012? opening up home basing to all pilots currently on the seniority list. Newhires will still be on the 100 domicile list. If you live in or near one of them, it doesn't mean much. If you live near an airport that is not on the list, it is quite frustrating.

For every tour I used to drive by my home airport on the way to or from my domicile. It was really awesome when I was paired up with another pilot who qualified for the HBA system and used my home airport as a base when I couldn't. That's what you've seen referred to as the B scale as far as NJA is concerned.

givememywings

I'm joining the club fellas! Got my email invite earlier today and I'm scheduled for the same days. Looking forward to meeting everyone.

LucasM

Is the list of 100 airports online somewhere. Searched Google and couldn't find it

frmrdashtrash

Yes, but not sure I can post it here.

I'd be happy to check it if there's a specific airport.

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