eglplt

Your opinion is duly noted!

Intel33

I know several guys who work at NetJets and have talked to several crews that have been through the FBO I'm based at. They all indicate there is a backlog in training. The question is whether this is purposeful on the part of NetJets/FSI/B-H or just poor planning? I know you can't spool up training overnight, but I would think it has been long enough that through-put should have increased by now if the company really wanted it to.

MWilliams

This is just another blunder by this EMT. They spend all of their time looking back at metrics that they can't see the iceberg staring them in the face. We had 5 years of furlough to move people around and get the training pipeline ready to go to max output and this EMT missed the signs of the industry improving. As a result the company waited at least year too long to start the recall and now one year later they have themselves a training log jam.

Gsxrguy750

I was recalled in early Dec and am still sitting at home waiting for IOE. I know someone who was recalled in Nov and just started IOE last week. The pay checks are still coming so I no problems here.

Packrat

That's the best. When Alaska got rid of the MD-80s, they had guys sitting at home for 4-5 months over Thanksgiving/Christmas no less. What a goat rope!

jtf560

I know 200k for a small plane SIC is not happening at NetJets this decade, but the way they are trying to fit 20lbs of $h!- in a 10lb bag on the road now makes this sort of pay justifiable. My best guess from talking to many others here is that the average line pilot is flying around 20% more in the same amount of days
over the last year than the year before. That requires way more than 20% more effort. It is honestly unsustainable even for 200k for an SIC. What I believe we could actually get with enough pilots motivating the company to do this is around 50% base pay increase along with better work rules that force the company into using us at a more sustainable level. Another week of vacation after 15 years, better schedules, and improved retirement are all reasonable and obtainable on top of that. The company can easily afford it and still have hundreds of millions of dollars in profit every year. When you look at all the money coming in (even based on what they are reporting and not including what they are "accounting" away) it is just mind blowing what a money machine this place is. That said, we will only get what we earn. If the troops don't provide leverage, we will end up with a t@rd of a contract and those that stick around will deserve what they get. I am doing all I can to legally provide leverage for the negotiating committee and I would honestly prefer to stay providing we get good improvements overall. If not, I'll be disappointed and bail to start over somewhere else.

jaybird

Hey buddy, sorry to keep picking on you, but did you see the recent award for the EZ?

Both already DA2000 captains in the top 100 of the seniority list. Hang on, it's gonna be a long upgrade. Wait till you see how senior the FO bids go on the Global and G-Whiz.



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full of luv

Just curious if the Gulfstreams are G-whiz, does net jets have names for the other types or is there just some inherent disdain for the gulfstream product?

NZNV

I wasn't towards the Gulfstream product, a long time ago when NJI was started it was implied that a Citation Ultra pilot couldn't fly a GIV. Hence the name G-whiz. Name is still around but we are all the same family with a really messed up seniority list now. Other name: Hawkersaurus.

MWilliams

I'll add "Phlegm" and "Barbie Jet" to your list.