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12-05-2008 | 11:44 PM
#121
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Are you talking about the first year payscales at Pen Air and Everts? They don't seem like they are that close.
12-06-2008 | 07:39 AM
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It is hard work but the majority of our scheduled trips we spend less than an hour unloading, charters are totally another story. I still have no idea why the park service was shipping 20 foot sections of trees with the bark still on them to Port Alsworth!
12-06-2008 | 08:36 AM
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CandC, I guess they aren't too close. I believe our FOs start at 1100 a month, 11 and hour, and 100 a month as a safety bonus. Considering they probably get paid 110-115 hours a month (on average), their probably closer than at first glance. Course there's a bunch of other factors that affect job satisfaction.
01-24-2009 | 07:49 AM
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We will keep trying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, it does seem that the union thing has lost steam. I'm sorry to say that, but it is what it is. With the help of ALPA "The coalition for penair unionization" determined that; Based upon the current pilot group,
the ratification of Peninsula Airways is not likely. This was indicated by a mathematical analysis that took place in December. The main issue was once again......the pilots insecurity with union participation. These are some of the highlights of our results. The running theme is that people can’t leave Penair, because this is their only option…Theses statistics are based on interviews with current and former employees as well as information that is public knowledge.
1) 29% of the pilot group has DUI/DWI violations or some sort of major alcohol related moving violations.
2) 41% of the pilot group does not hold an accredited four year bachelor degree.
3) 16% Show some signs of various personality and social disorders, which would preclude onward employment.
4) 36% have some sort of FAA action on their record. Accident, incident or violations.
There were a few more stats that were compiled, but they were insignificant. These numbers alone do not preclude Penair from becoming unionized. They just show that some of the people within these groups will not be able to attain employment at the major airline or cargo level, and therefore don’t want to risk this gamble. As always we will continue this fight, we believe that once the economy takes an upswing, the general consensus will change. With a slight change in the pilot group demographic, we do believe our goal of unionization can happen.
Down on my knees to serve my fellow pilots forever.................TT
the ratification of Peninsula Airways is not likely. This was indicated by a mathematical analysis that took place in December. The main issue was once again......the pilots insecurity with union participation. These are some of the highlights of our results. The running theme is that people can’t leave Penair, because this is their only option…Theses statistics are based on interviews with current and former employees as well as information that is public knowledge.
1) 29% of the pilot group has DUI/DWI violations or some sort of major alcohol related moving violations.
2) 41% of the pilot group does not hold an accredited four year bachelor degree.
3) 16% Show some signs of various personality and social disorders, which would preclude onward employment.
4) 36% have some sort of FAA action on their record. Accident, incident or violations.
There were a few more stats that were compiled, but they were insignificant. These numbers alone do not preclude Penair from becoming unionized. They just show that some of the people within these groups will not be able to attain employment at the major airline or cargo level, and therefore don’t want to risk this gamble. As always we will continue this fight, we believe that once the economy takes an upswing, the general consensus will change. With a slight change in the pilot group demographic, we do believe our goal of unionization can happen.
Down on my knees to serve my fellow pilots forever.................TT
01-25-2009 | 08:07 AM
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Yeah, it does seem that the union thing has lost steam. I'm sorry to say that, but it is what it is. With the help of ALPA "The coalition for penair unionization" determined that; Based upon the current pilot group,
the ratification of Peninsula Airways is not likely. This was indicated by a mathematical analysis that took place in December. The main issue was once again......the pilots insecurity with union participation. These are some of the highlights of our results. The running theme is that people can’t leave Penair, because this is their only option…Theses statistics are based on interviews with current and former employees as well as information that is public knowledge.
1) 29% of the pilot group has DUI/DWI violations or some sort of major alcohol related moving violations.
2) 41% of the pilot group does not hold an accredited four year bachelor degree.
3) 16% Show some signs of various personality and social disorders, which would preclude onward employment.
4) 36% have some sort of FAA action on their record. Accident, incident or violations.
There were a few more stats that were compiled, but they were insignificant. These numbers alone do not preclude Penair from becoming unionized. They just show that some of the people within these groups will not be able to attain employment at the major airline or cargo level, and therefore don’t want to risk this gamble. As always we will continue this fight, we believe that once the economy takes an upswing, the general consensus will change. With a slight change in the pilot group demographic, we do believe our goal of unionization can happen.
Down on my knees to serve my fellow pilots forever.................TT
the ratification of Peninsula Airways is not likely. This was indicated by a mathematical analysis that took place in December. The main issue was once again......the pilots insecurity with union participation. These are some of the highlights of our results. The running theme is that people can’t leave Penair, because this is their only option…Theses statistics are based on interviews with current and former employees as well as information that is public knowledge.
1) 29% of the pilot group has DUI/DWI violations or some sort of major alcohol related moving violations.
2) 41% of the pilot group does not hold an accredited four year bachelor degree.
3) 16% Show some signs of various personality and social disorders, which would preclude onward employment.
4) 36% have some sort of FAA action on their record. Accident, incident or violations.
There were a few more stats that were compiled, but they were insignificant. These numbers alone do not preclude Penair from becoming unionized. They just show that some of the people within these groups will not be able to attain employment at the major airline or cargo level, and therefore don’t want to risk this gamble. As always we will continue this fight, we believe that once the economy takes an upswing, the general consensus will change. With a slight change in the pilot group demographic, we do believe our goal of unionization can happen.
Down on my knees to serve my fellow pilots forever.................TT
01-26-2009 | 09:33 AM
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....Theses statistics are based on interviews with current and former employees as well as information that is public knowledge...
1) 29% of the pilot group has DUI/DWI violations or some sort of major alcohol related moving violations.
2) 41% of the pilot group does not hold an accredited four year bachelor degree.
3) 16% Show some signs of various personality and social disorders, which would preclude onward employment.
4) 36% have some sort of FAA action on their record. Accident, incident or violations.
1) 29% of the pilot group has DUI/DWI violations or some sort of major alcohol related moving violations.
2) 41% of the pilot group does not hold an accredited four year bachelor degree.
3) 16% Show some signs of various personality and social disorders, which would preclude onward employment.
4) 36% have some sort of FAA action on their record. Accident, incident or violations.
01-26-2009 | 12:37 PM
#130
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We interviewed a representative group, based upon a statistical ratio. That means 25% were interviewed and the results were interpolated. Do you really think people will admit to you or anyone, they interacted with us?
At this point I will not identify myself……two reasons. 1)We still need to organize the union push. At this point I can’t risk isolating myself at work. 2) I have a family to feed, you know that if management knew my name I would be gone. Your ignorant to even ask, I hope for your sake you knew that.
On my knees to serve my fellow pilots forever.....TT
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