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Old 07-29-2013 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigannouncement
Maybe what you say is true, I don't know. But even if he had hit the right button, there was no reason for him to send that email even to just to the intended recipient. It served no purpose besides complaining, and was in no way going to make his situation better. It's the kind of immaturity that is a real problem.
That pilot got really screwed last staffing bid (as in last year) and nobody, management nor union helped him out. He did everything by the book, contested the error and nothing happened. They didn't extend the staffing bid or correct the issue after 3 staffing bid award updates. So what did he do, he swallowed his pride and trucked on. Now management decides to extend the staffing bid because pilots don't understand the staffing bid, some pilots didn't bid correctly or who knows why...now you tell me, is this fair? Is it fair that this pilot emailed the same people that didn't move a finger on his behalf and got outed by MM? Because that I know of, a pilot doesn't have the admin rights to email the whole pilot group, or does he? MM replied to all! He didn't!

It really disgusts me how people can talk crap about another person, on a public forum without knowing the facts. It's really easy to hide and coward behind your screen name and just assume stuff without knowing what really happened. Instead of criticizing your fellow pilot why not thank him for at least being one of the few, again I repeat, FEW that has the balls to stand up to management. Next time you want to talk crap and put a fellow pilot on blast, do your homework first. We're supposed to stand together! Extending the staffing bid is wrong! So please re-read your post and tell me who is the one with the problem? Who's the*one talking crap without knowing the facts? Who's the immature one?

Enough said!
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Old 07-29-2013 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Temocil27
I had no idea what that dude was trying to say! I must have read his email 3 times. How hard is it to fill out the staffing bid after it was explained in three different emails?
Read what I wrote to Bigannouncement, it's directed at you too.
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Old 07-29-2013 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EatMyPropwash
I think the e-mail(s) have answered that question already... Apparently its rocket surgery...
Until you actually pass training and fly the line here for about a good year, then you can speak and I might listen to what garbage comes out of your mouth. Until then please refrain from adding fuel to the fire. You don't have a clue son!
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Old 07-30-2013 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigannouncement
Maybe what you say is true, I don't know. But even if he had hit the right button, there was no reason for him to send that email even to just to the intended recipient. It served no purpose besides complaining, and was in no way going to make his situation better. It's the kind of immaturity that is a real problem.
Look here, until you have been there and gotten screwed over by the company don't come talking crap!

What the company and union did is not right. They have extended this staffing bid twice now. Last year they re did the staffing bid couple of times too, only to help out a person that bid the Saab but didn't want it anymore, yet not helping out this pilot when he bid correctly for captain.

And sir you are the one that's immature. If u have a problem with someone emailing the company to raise a issue, u need to bring this up on the union forum not a public forum!
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Old 07-30-2013 | 12:05 PM
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LOL wut?

I'm too fat for this...
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Old 07-30-2013 | 12:09 PM
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As I recall about seven months ago while I was still flying for Silver, I stated that soon many FOs will be leaving for bigger and better, and the Street Captains will be displaced to the right seat, no one listened. I also stated that no street hire captain will stay at Silver as a First Officer because if they have to fly from that seat, just as the FOs that are leaving, can be flying a Jet at a regional in the right seat. I guess no one listened, all these Captains were waiting to get that 1,000 hours of PIC and "I am going to a Major!". How many have left to the majors? 5-10? Well what about the classes from January 2012 to August 2012 lets say 10 captains per class 80? Well now what. Reality hit and guys it's time to face reality and get you a seniority number somewhere else until that Major calls you, because guess what it's not going to the quality of life commuting to these out stations because guess what they can not even hold a first officer seat in FLL or TPA once this staffing bid goes thru. I don't blame any of you but Silver because they did it to themselves; lets grow fast, hire as much as we can and then we will fix the problem when it gets there... They just didn't foresee the outcome of the ATP law and some 20 FOs that won't make the hours before the date. Thank you for listening Good luck silver!
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Old 07-30-2013 | 01:08 PM
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Apparently the staffing bid is out...anyone able to make heads or tails of it?
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Old 07-30-2013 | 01:18 PM
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It's kinda hard to read on FLiCA but I'm getting the gist of it.
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Old 07-30-2013 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590
It's kinda hard to read on FLiCA but I'm getting the gist of it.
I'm getting the gist that there will be tons of open time when everything settles out...
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Old 07-30-2013 | 01:30 PM
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They've screwed the pooch on this one. Being displaced by pilots without displacement rights? I don't think so...
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