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pilotlyfe 09-08-2017 04:30 PM

Does Ameriflight pay for your ATP-CTP when you meet ATP requirements?

SIUav8er 09-08-2017 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by pilotlyfe (Post 2427418)
Does Ameriflight pay for your ATP-CTP when you meet ATP requirements?

Why would they? An ATP is not required to fly for Ameriflight

SIUav8er 09-08-2017 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Test Echo 45 (Post 2426009)
Let's say someone has the goal of flying for UPS, or Fedex. Does spending time at Ameriflight help get you there or is one better off spending that time flying for a regional? Thanks in advance.

If you want to work for any carrier flying heavies, AMF is not the place to go. Go to a regional. Maybe an LCC or ACMI after the regional. Flying single pilot turboprops is great, but the large cargo airlines want what any of the Majors want; 121 airline experience and/or military.

KnotSee 09-10-2017 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by SIUav8er (Post 2427433)
If you want to work for any carrier flying heavies, AMF is not the place to go. Go to a regional. Maybe an LCC or ACMI after the regional. Flying single pilot turboprops is great, but the large cargo airlines want what any of the Majors want; 121 airline experience and/or military.

I heard that AMF has a flow thru agreement with UPS?

Jetlife 09-10-2017 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSee (Post 2428139)
I heard that AMF has a flow thru agreement with UPS?

You heard wrong. There is not a flow though agreement with UPS.

If your goal is heavy freight, AMF isnít going to give you any advantage. If you want to fly single pilot freight, go to AMF. AMF has an agreement with Omni but that company is an absolute dumpster fire to work for. You could get hired from AMF to Atlas, a few have done that but AMF isnít giving you any advantage over a regional, probably less so in most cases.

KnotSee 09-10-2017 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2428141)
You heard wrong. There is not a flow though agreement with UPS.

If your goal is heavy freight, AMF isnít going to give you any advantage. If you want to fly single pilot freight, go to AMF. AMF has an agreement with Omni but that company is an absolute dumpster fire to work for. You could get hired from AMF to Atlas, a few have done that but AMF isnít giving you any advantage over a regional, probably less so in most cases.

Irregardless of weather UPS has a flow thru, why wouldn't they want to hire AMF pilots that fly feeder runs for UPS? They already know UPS system and the ins and outs of how they work. Plus they know how to fly at night.

Jetlife 09-10-2017 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSee (Post 2428162)
Irregardless of weather UPS has a flow thru, why wouldn't they want to hire AMF pilots that fly feeder runs for UPS? They already know UPS system and the ins and outs of how they work. Plus they know how to fly at night.

AMF pilots do not know the ins and outs of UPS or the system. They know they need to be at X airport at X time and to look for the brown truck, fly to another airport and give the boxes to another brown truck, thatís it. And most of the runs are not flown at night.

There are hundreds if not thousands of 121 jet crews with lots of experience, lots of heavy time, lots of international time applying to big brown and big purple. The flying AMF does is just slightly more relevant to what UPS does than flight instructing.

Flying a 1900 from one podunk airport to a slightly less podunk airport by yourself doesnít really prepare you for flying a 747 to Frankfurt.

KnotSee 09-10-2017 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2428166)
AMF pilots do not know the ins and outs of UPS or the system. They know they need to be at X airport at X time and to look for the brown truck, fly to another airport and give the boxes to another brown truck, thatís it. And most of the runs are not flown at night.

There are hundreds if not thousands of 121 jet crews with lots of experience, lots of heavy time, lots of international time applying to big brown and big purple. The flying AMF does is just slightly more relevant to what UPS does than flight instructing.

Flying a 1900 from one podunk airport to a slightly less podunk airport by yourself doesnít really prepare you for flying a 747 to Frankfurt.

UPS doesn't fly into Frankfurt.:D Night flying is night flying. I'd say someone with night experience would be preferred by UPS. And AMF pilots would get to know how UPS works just by being exposed to them. Plus, you'd get to hobknob with there pilots during the sort and maybe get one to write you a rec.

Jetlife 09-10-2017 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSee (Post 2428187)
UPS doesn't fly into Frankfurt.:D Night flying is night flying. I'd say someone with night experience would be preferred by UPS. And AMF pilots would get to know how UPS works just by being exposed to them. Plus, you'd get to hobknob with there pilots during the sort and maybe get one to write you a rec.

Cologne, same crap different toilet ;).

Look itís not me you have to convince. UPS hasnít hired anyone directly from AMF in over a decade, and that was literally 1 person and we donít know the qualifications of that pilot prior to AMF. My buddy who was and AMF new hire with me, whoís dad is a captain at UPS had to go to Frontier before UPS would hire him and it took 6 years.

Saying that UPS should love AMF and hire them is great, but flying at night at AMF is just a little bit different than flying augmented crews through 11 time zones in a heavy multi crew jet, it always will be. Does that mean itís hard to do? No. Does it mean somebody canít go from a 1900 to a heavy jet and learn it all? No.

One thing AMF cannot address is the gap from flying 135 single pilot cargo, to the rest of the industry. Turboprops are going away, And there are tons of ways to go get jet time. Look at the metrics of who UPS hires right now and see where AMF stacks, Iíll give you a hint, itís zero.

KnotSee 09-10-2017 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Jetlife (Post 2428195)
Cologne, same crap different toilet ;).

Look itís not me you have to convince. UPS hasnít hired anyone directly from AMF in over a decade, and that was literally 1 person and we donít know the qualifications of that pilot prior to AMF. My buddy who was and AMF new hire with me, whoís dad is a captain at UPS had to go to Frontier before UPS would hire him and it took 6 years.

Saying that UPS should love AMF and hire them is great, but flying at night at AMF is just a little bit different than flying augmented crews through 11 time zones in a heavy multi crew jet, it always will be. Does that mean itís hard to do? No. Does it mean somebody canít go from a 1900 to a heavy jet and learn it all? No.

One thing AMF cannot address is the gap from flying 135 single pilot cargo, to the rest of the industry. Turboprops are going away, And there are tons of ways to go get jet time. Look at the metrics of who UPS hires right now and see where AMF stacks, Iíll give you a hint, itís zero.

Your posting history is very negative against AMF. You must of been fired or washed out of training to be so negative.

I'd think that single pilot in a twin is way harder than monitoring the autopilot on a 747 as you drone across the ocean. BWDIK?

There are AMF management on this forum and they hint of another type of flow to UPS that is being negotiated as we speak.

If I could get a flow to UPS, I'd leave my regional and go to AMF.


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