Cape Air
10-06-2018 | 04:15 PM
#1951
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Do not come here if you don’t have the integrity to keep your commitment, regardless of the “cost” of buying out of it.
The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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The commitment clock starts ticking from the company successfully upgrading you to Captain with your in house ATP checkride. The more time building you need on the company’s dime before that event, the longer the commitment on the other side. Come in with 500 hours, you have to stay longer...
And completely aside from your commitment there are very good career reasons to spend some time getting 1000 multi 135 commuter PIC at cape. Or the spirit flow, etc etc.
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Two more questions: How are SICs legally logging time? Are they only being employed for duty periods exceeding 8 hours? Are they only being used on aircraft with inoperative autopilots?
Lastly, how is the QOL for FOs? A thread from a couple years back claimed the FOs were being treated as worthless.
10-07-2018 | 02:26 PM
#1952
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
That's a 100% douche move from the company and I would sue the sh*t out of them if they did that.
A training contract is and should be a no harm no foul issue if you pay your way out of it.
10-07-2018 | 02:27 PM
#1953
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That’s if you walk without paying back
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10-07-2018 | 02:33 PM
#1954
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From: Whale FO
By the way, the "not eligible for rehire" or whatever verbiage is used is not in PRIA. It will come up when verifying employment history. You can easily get around that - just don't allow the new employer to contact that employer, and confirm your employment history with first and last paychecks.
I doubt Cape, or anyone, will tick that box. That has zero benefit for them, but opens up a bunch of legal liability issues.
10-07-2018 | 02:35 PM
#1955
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If you don't pay it back, that's what collection agents are for.
By the way, the "not eligible for rehire" or whatever verbiage is used is not in PRIA. It will come up when verifying employment history.
I doubt Cape, or anyone, will tick that box. That has zero benefit for them, but opens up a bunch of legal liability issues.
By the way, the "not eligible for rehire" or whatever verbiage is used is not in PRIA. It will come up when verifying employment history.
I doubt Cape, or anyone, will tick that box. That has zero benefit for them, but opens up a bunch of legal liability issues.
If you have the integrity to keep your word, it wouldn’t ever be an issue Back of the envelope FYI, 30k doesn’t come close to covering their hit if you walk at upgrade...
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10-07-2018 | 02:44 PM
#1956
In a land of unicorns
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From: Whale FO
Unlike most 135 training contracts, that contract is very likely enforceable because it has a valuable consideration (your ATP), unlike many others. But that's a question for collection agencies and courts.
But I'm almost 100% sure it has no effect on your PRIA.
10-08-2018 | 04:34 AM
#1959
On Reserve
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Contract
Correct me if I am wrong, the contract should really be a non-issue. The way I think about it is as follows:
1-I would be at a regional for more than 2 years anyway, maybe longer.
2-I believe the agreements with Jet Blue and Spirit make Cape Air the
fastest way to a wide body jet.
3-from all the research I have done on their website making Capt is
assured as soon as you have your ATP mins. And I believe the
Capt's are making decent money.
4-I am excited about the fleet replacement! You can really tell the
state of a company when they are willing to replace the entire fleet of airplanes.
I believe the contract is worth it! I plan on staying there longer than the 15 months they are obligating me to. Heck maybe much longer if I get to fly out of San Juan!
1-I would be at a regional for more than 2 years anyway, maybe longer.
2-I believe the agreements with Jet Blue and Spirit make Cape Air the
fastest way to a wide body jet.
3-from all the research I have done on their website making Capt is
assured as soon as you have your ATP mins. And I believe the
Capt's are making decent money.
4-I am excited about the fleet replacement! You can really tell the
state of a company when they are willing to replace the entire fleet of airplanes.
I believe the contract is worth it! I plan on staying there longer than the 15 months they are obligating me to. Heck maybe much longer if I get to fly out of San Juan!
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