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Old 07-17-2021 | 08:46 PM
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Hello!

Few years ago a Ramp coworker at Delta became a flight attendant. She was with the company for 6 years. After the training, she was not at the bottom of FAs seniority (I am not sure, but I think they consider like 1/3 of seniority) so she got around 2 years on seniority list.
Now, lets suppose I got hired at Cape Air (Ramp, Cleaner, Scheduler, etc). After three years I finally got 1500 hours working also as part time CFI, interviewed and got a job offer. After passing the checkride as Captain, I will bid for a base as "zero seniority pilot" or I can get some advantage for being with the company for three years?

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Old 07-17-2021 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PILOTORAY
Hello!

Few years ago a Ramp coworker at Delta became a flight attendant. She was with the company for 6 years. After the training, she was not at the bottom of FAs seniority (I am not sure, but I think they consider like 1/3 of seniority) so she got around 2 years on seniority list.
Now, lets suppose I got hired at Cape Air (Ramp, Cleaner, Scheduler, etc). After three years I finally got 1500 hours working also as part time CFI, interviewed and got a job offer. After passing the checkride as Captain, I will bid for a base as "zero seniority pilot" or I can get some advantage for being with the company for three years?

Thanks a lot!!

Hey there!

Let’s say you had 3 years of seniority at Cape Air. Your 3 years of seniority would be beneficial to the benefits side of things such as non revving or health benefits (you wouldn’t have to wait 90 days for insurance to kick in), but as far as bidding purposes, you’ll be bidding at whatever your pilot seniority number is in accordance with your class date. They may default to give you the highest seniority in your class but I am not 100% sure. This would be the case at many airlines. For instance, I know someone that is currently at Delta with his original hire date as a CSA but for bidding, he bids with his pilot seniority but gets to non rev on his original hire date.


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Old 07-17-2021 | 10:08 PM
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Hi there!

I got it. In fact, it makes sense. It would be unfair to the pilots being bypassed by a new one just because he was already with the company.
Yes, at Delta you bid with seniority got in your class and have original hire date seniority for Nonrev list. I do not know why flight attendants get some "seniority credit". As for pilots, seniority really starts when you pass the checkride.
Thank you so much for your quick response!
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Old 07-18-2021 | 10:43 PM
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For those in the know:

How is the transition training to the Tecnam coming along?

Will new hires be trained direct to the Tecnam or is it still the Cesnna?

How many Tecnams in the fleet now and when do you expect to complete the order?
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Old 07-18-2021 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by maxconthrust
For those in the know:

How is the transition training to the Tecnam coming along?

Will new hires be trained direct to the Tecnam or is it still the Cesnna?

How many Tecnams in the fleet now and when do you expect to complete the order?

Currently, all initial training is done in the 402 as it is still the majority of our fleet. I don’t think we are approved to use the Tecnam for initial training yet. I think we are close to 30 Tecnam’s at the moment. Still many improvements need to be made on Tecnam and Lycoming’s part. I bet orders will be fulfilled in the next 5-7 years if everything goes smoothly.


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Old 07-19-2021 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dapuckstopper15
Currently, all initial training is done in the 402 as it is still the majority of our fleet. I don’t think we are approved to use the Tecnam for initial training yet. I think we are close to 30 Tecnam’s at the moment. Still many improvements need to be made on Tecnam and Lycoming’s part. I bet orders will be fulfilled in the next 5-7 years if everything goes smoothly.
thanks for the update. what about the new hire class for each month? how many in a class? and is it true that there is enough applicants until the end of 2021? meaning no new interviews in the pipeline?
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Old 07-19-2021 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by maxconthrust
thanks for the update. what about the new hire class for each month? how many in a class? and is it true that there is enough applicants until the end of 2021? meaning no new interviews in the pipeline?

There are 8-10 in a new hire class. I think they’re still rolling interviews because we are very short on pilots. Many are leaving and moving on. Summer is a hard time to trading because of fleet and pilot utilization is used towards the line instead of training. They get so bottlenecked. They can’t and won’t be able to keep up with the demand


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Old 07-19-2021 | 07:03 PM
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so you think there will be interviews until the end of the year??
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Old 08-03-2021 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by maxconthrust
so you think there will be interviews until the end of the year??
Interviews are rolling and will continue throughout the year. The company is losing all of it's captains and will be very short staffed very quickly. If you can afford FO pay and know you will be flying 402's and it's long days there is money to be made and valuable PIC time that counts as 121 Multi time. I would not come here only to break the contract as aviation is a small industry. Incentive shifts are being paid at 300.00 for each shift plus the applicable overtime and I have no doubt that amount will be raised next year.

Cape Air is 100% not for everyone but if you know what you are getting into there is worse places to be. The basing is still really tough with so many unknowns and the training department is overwhelmed. Initial training will easily take 2-3 months with short-staffing of instructors and summer season.
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Old 08-03-2021 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandalorian
Interviews are rolling and will continue throughout the year. The company is losing all of it's captains and will be very short staffed very quickly. If you can afford FO pay and know you will be flying 402's and it's long days there is money to be made and valuable PIC time that counts as 121 Multi time. I would not come here only to break the contract as aviation is a small industry. Incentive shifts are being paid at 300.00 for each shift plus the applicable overtime and I have no doubt that amount will be raised next year.

Cape Air is 100% not for everyone but if you know what you are getting into there is worse places to be. The basing is still really tough with so many unknowns and the training department is overwhelmed. Initial training will easily take 2-3 months with short-staffing of instructors and summer season.
what the chance that cape air would call up for an interview? I put in for an application while back got an email saying thanks for applying but not hiring will keep resume on file. I am trying to get an opportunity to fly for someone that needing to filling FO spots. What are they really looking for in terms of making the resume to stand out for them to interview?

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