Piedmont Airlines News & Rumors
03-28-2019, 07:51 AM
#3631
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2017
Posts: 96
Originally Posted by OversoldCommute
So here's an update for everyone regarding the cancelled upgrade classes. I just flew with a pretty senior FO who was in the two cancelled classes.
He got a call from BF (not the company, but union BF) yeyesterday telling him they struck a deal. The company will send 5 upgrades to the April 8 class, but they have to waive their four (or is it five?) home study days. Instead, the FOs will fly the line right up until they go to class.
The FO I was flying with told BF no, that's not right, and I don't wanna do that. BF told the FO that if he says that, it will be considered a refusal and count as a training failure on his record. So the 5 FOs who are going are being FORCED to waive their contractually guaranteed home study days, under the threat of getting a black mark on their record. And BF was 100% backing the company up on this, at least from what my FO told me. How can they get away with that and how does BF even still hold a position in our union?
He got a call from BF (not the company, but union BF) yeyesterday telling him they struck a deal. The company will send 5 upgrades to the April 8 class, but they have to waive their four (or is it five?) home study days. Instead, the FOs will fly the line right up until they go to class.
The FO I was flying with told BF no, that's not right, and I don't wanna do that. BF told the FO that if he says that, it will be considered a refusal and count as a training failure on his record. So the 5 FOs who are going are being FORCED to waive their contractually guaranteed home study days, under the threat of getting a black mark on their record. And BF was 100% backing the company up on this, at least from what my FO told me. How can they get away with that and how does BF even still hold a position in our union?
03-28-2019, 08:32 AM
#3632
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 616
BF operates at the direction of the elected reps. If this is in fact true, call them and hold them accountable. He reports to them, not the other way around. If the company can’t go without FOs for four days then they shouldn’t hold the class. Expecting these few individuals to pick up the slack due to MISmanagement isn’t right.
03-28-2019, 09:24 AM
#3635
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 335
Originally Posted by buddies8
Tell BF to make public the LOA or LOU that's gives management the relief from contract regarding this issue. If there is none, tell him to ram it.
Just an outsider viewpoint
Just an outsider viewpoint
03-28-2019, 10:27 AM
#3636
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 133
Originally Posted by OversoldCommute
So here's an update for everyone regarding the cancelled upgrade classes. I just flew with a pretty senior FO who was in the two cancelled classes.
He got a call from BF (not the company, but union BF) yeyesterday telling him they struck a deal. The company will send 5 upgrades to the April 8 class, but they have to waive their four (or is it five?) home study days. Instead, the FOs will fly the line right up until they go to class.
The FO I was flying with told BF no, that's not right, and I don't wanna do that. BF told the FO that if he says that, it will be considered a refusal and count as a training failure on his record. So the 5 FOs who are going are being FORCED to waive their contractually guaranteed home study days, under the threat of getting a black mark on their record. And BF was 100% backing the company up on this, at least from what my FO told me. How can they get away with that and how does BF even still hold a position in our union?
He got a call from BF (not the company, but union BF) yeyesterday telling him they struck a deal. The company will send 5 upgrades to the April 8 class, but they have to waive their four (or is it five?) home study days. Instead, the FOs will fly the line right up until they go to class.
The FO I was flying with told BF no, that's not right, and I don't wanna do that. BF told the FO that if he says that, it will be considered a refusal and count as a training failure on his record. So the 5 FOs who are going are being FORCED to waive their contractually guaranteed home study days, under the threat of getting a black mark on their record. And BF was 100% backing the company up on this, at least from what my FO told me. How can they get away with that and how does BF even still hold a position in our union?
03-28-2019, 10:35 AM
#3637
New Hire
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 616
Originally Posted by dash8trash
Nobody was forced. They went down the list and if you agreed to it, great. If not, they skipped you. There was absolutely no threat.
03-28-2019, 10:36 AM
#3638
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 761
Originally Posted by dash8trash
Nobody was forced. They went down the list and if you agreed to it, great. If not, they skipped you. There was absolutely no threat.
RAM IT
03-28-2019, 10:41 AM
#3639
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 564
Upgrade was a little different when I did it years ago on the dash... but day one you walked into a class took a limitations test with a bit of system knowledge required. Of you got less than a 90 hour dreams of upgrade were over.
Also during those days off prior to class I got my business at home in order so I didn't have to worry about being away for a month.
This whole thing sounds so shady. I don't understand how you can be bypassed if you don't agree to work. That delays possible pay raise and possible bonus entitlements.
Also during those days off prior to class I got my business at home in order so I didn't have to worry about being away for a month.
This whole thing sounds so shady. I don't understand how you can be bypassed if you don't agree to work. That delays possible pay raise and possible bonus entitlements.
03-28-2019, 11:21 AM
#3640
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Position: E145 CA
Posts: 120
For what it's worth, I think the FO was just going to go with it and not ruffle any feathers. All he did was tell me what was said during the phone call, I think the whole thing got under my skin a lot more than his, even though I have no dog in this particular fight.
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