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TallFlyer 05-24-2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by njd1 (Post 2601375)
Just curious -- I presently live in NJ but like most sane people I want to get out ASAP.

Say I come to PSA and get my local base (PHL) initially. I move to CLT once I can hold at least SCR as an FO there (less than a year it appears).

But then, say after 6-12 months in CLT I am force upgraded, which requires me to commute to reserve. All other things being equal, would it be easier to commute from CLT or another outlying base like PHL? I guess what I'm asking is whether I am more likely to get commuter-friendly flights out of CLT vs a smaller base like PHL and therefore whether it makes more sense to move to CLT sooner rather than later.

Generally speaking, without a detailed comparison of schedules and such, commuting to any of our bases out of CLT would be marginally easier compared to PHL, only because there's more PSA metal flying out of CLT to various outstations, and you would have priority over any offline jumpseater on PSA metal.

Now, if you wanted to move somewhere else that was an easy drive to DCA, PHL, ORF, or heaven forbid, DAY/CVG, then life becomes even easier. As you can see on the last Base Update posted by MaCrOs, holding CLT as a CA could be a while.

njd1 05-24-2018 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2601392)
Now, if you wanted to move somewhere else that was an easy drive to DCA, PHL, ORF, or heaven forbid, DAY/CVG, then life becomes even easier. As you can see on the last Base Update posted by MaCrOs, holding CLT as a CA could be a while.

I can see from the data that I may wind up being stuck in NJ (PHL, really) for about three years. But if the CA SCR times remain where they are (long shot I know, but possible) I might be able to upgrade at roughly 1.5 years and do my time on CA reserve in base, which is a huge positive.

captande 05-24-2018 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2601377)
CLT is closing, TYS will be the next AA/PSA megahub.

Dilly Dilly!

TallFlyer 05-24-2018 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by captande (Post 2601415)
Dilly Dilly!

I was going to say something to the effect of "To the Pit of Misery!" but the reality is TYS is a pretty nice place.

Throwitaway 05-24-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2601437)
I was going to say something to the effect of "To the Pit of Misery!" but the reality is TYS is a pretty nice place.

The Country Club wall just got 10 FEET HIGHER!

Gotta keep out the riff raff...

FlyingSlowly 05-24-2018 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2601437)
I was going to say something to the effect of "To the Pit of Misery!" but the reality is TYS is a pretty nice place.

Just wait until they announce CAK...

(It's the only serious outstation MX base we seem to be missing. I suspect that as our fleet grows, we could end up the sole AA operator there...To all the hubs (CLT, PHL, DCA, LGA, and even eventually ORD)...)

TallFlyer 05-24-2018 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2601461)
Just wait until they announce CAK...

(It's the only serious outstation MX base we seem to be missing. I suspect that as our fleet grows, we could end up the sole AA operator there...To all the hubs (CLT, PHL, DCA, LGA, and even eventually ORD)...)

Having looked at the geographical distribution of our pilots before, there's enough in PIT, CLE, and the eastern side of CMH to comfortably mostly staff a CAK domicile.

But then there would be no more Ramada + Fox & Hound Overnights, oh the horror!

captande 05-24-2018 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Throwitaway (Post 2601457)
The Country Club wall just got 10 FEET HIGHER!

Gotta keep out the riff raff...

And Envoy is gonna pay for it!

Happyflyer 05-24-2018 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by njd1 (Post 2601332)
Okay, I've heard rumblings of this but I'm now officially curious -- does PSA have long term plans to close CLT? Where is the flying going? PDT?

You have already over assumed. Your first question is, does PSA have long term plans. The answer is, no one knows.

MaCrOs 05-24-2018 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2601479)
Having looked at the geographical distribution of our pilots before, there's enough in PIT, CLE, and the eastern side of CMH to comfortably mostly staff a CAK domicile.

But then there would be no more Ramada + Fox & Hound Overnights, oh the horror!

Fox and Hound shut their doors couple of months ago.

Clearedhot28 05-24-2018 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2601569)
Fox and Hound shut their doors couple of months ago.

Pretty sure they're still open. At least I think that's the place I had some drinks at on an overnight about two or three weeks ago. Next to the Michale's type store right?

MichaelVne 05-24-2018 11:41 AM

Fox & Hound
 
Fox & Hound is closed. Signage is taken down. I was there Monday

Clearedhot28 05-24-2018 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by MichaelVne (Post 2601588)
Fox & Hound is closed. Signage is taken down. I was there Monday

I stand corrected. Thanks for saving me the walk the next time I’m there.

FlyingSlowly 05-26-2018 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by njd1 (Post 2601332)
Okay, I've heard rumblings of this but I'm now officially curious -- does PSA have long term plans to close CLT? Where is the flying going? PDT?

FAKE NEWS. This would be almost like AA shutting gown CLT.

CLT is AA's most profitable hub. It would not quite so good for AA without PSA's contribution to their bottom line...

(One AA regional is no longer interchangeable with another. Fleets are getting segregated out. The AA regional used is dependent on route geography and what equipment AA wants or needs on any given route.)

njd1 05-27-2018 03:05 PM

Looking at the June awards maxtrix (recently posted) I continue to be confused.

If there is a shortage of captains, I would reason that reserve would be virtually non-existent because all captains would be utilized for the available flying, but most bases appear to have about a two year timeframe between SCR and R1.

Why, given the shortage, do new captains have to sit reserve for so long? It seems to me that any reserve time indicates the company is flush with captains willing and capable of flying. What am I missing here?

ZeroTT 05-27-2018 03:52 PM

Reserve captains can fix any problem and are an asset for triage. Line captains can only fix one problem. An airline short on personnel would want more reserves

kevin18 06-17-2018 12:20 PM

Just curious, where can one find the chart showing the base seniority list? I see the one from June on here, is there one for July that's out? Starting my time building in August with a likely start of September/October for FO school.

TallFlyer 06-17-2018 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by kevin18 (Post 2616190)
Just curious, where can one find the chart showing the base seniority list? I see the one from June on here, is there one for July that's out? Starting my time building in August with a likely start of September/October for FO school.



July won’t be out until the 23rd or 24th.


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Tiger52 06-17-2018 09:38 PM

Open question. Anyone know if there is a SAP guide? Trying to loose a trip without adding one.
Thanks

WhiteMorpheus 06-17-2018 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Tiger52 (Post 2616447)
Open question. Anyone know if there is a SAP guide? Trying to loose a trip without adding one.
Thanks

No can do, straight drop is not an option. I think the guide is on the ALPA site.

Tiger52 06-17-2018 10:28 PM

WhiteMorpheus- PM sent
Tiger

ZeroTT 06-18-2018 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by Tiger52 (Post 2616447)
Open question. Anyone know if there is a SAP guide? Trying to loose a trip without adding one.
Thanks

But you can swap two trips for 1.

irrelevant 06-18-2018 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2616497)
But you can swap two trips for 1.

My single best trade yet was swapping five trips for three, in a single transaction.

hawkman 06-18-2018 08:29 PM

SAP
 
For July, I have to be on leave for two weeks of the month. All my SAP requests have been denied for the last 24 hours due to min credit < 65 hrs. Is it impossible to SAP if you aren't working the full month and able to keep above 65 hours?

WhiteMorpheus 06-19-2018 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by hawkman (Post 2617084)
For July, I have to be on leave for two weeks of the month. All my SAP requests have been denied for the last 24 hours due to min credit < 65 hrs. Is it impossible to SAP if you aren't working the full month and able to keep above 65 hours?

Not sure for regular company leave, but for anything else (FMLA, MIL, etc) I'd wait to drop it until after SAP.

JayBee 06-19-2018 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by WhiteMorpheus (Post 2617143)
Not sure for regular company leave, but for anything else (FMLA, MIL, etc) I'd wait to drop it until after SAP.

This ^^^^^^^^

hawkman 06-19-2018 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by JayBee (Post 2617180)
This ^^^^^^^^

Not sure if I was clear . . . the leave was already on the schedule. Total hours remaining about 50. Tried to SAP to swap a trip still on my schedule, but kept getting denied due to below min credit. Emailed Crew Scheduling but didn't really expect a response due to the meltdown.

I just got a denial about two hours ago on the last swap I put in last night. It was 15 hours later. Wondering if there will any help for FO's who got lost and didn't get an honest SAP. I know things were tough but have a problem trip I need to adjust. There appears to be several available trips that would work to swap. From one of the emails about the Captain SAP it appeared that there might be a chance of flexibility.

FlyingSlowly 06-21-2018 04:10 PM

Anyone go to the 'Town Hall' before the meltdown?

Was there any mention made about the next possible crew base?

Jecain7 06-21-2018 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly (Post 2619158)
Anyone go to the 'Town Hall' before the meltdown?

Was there any mention made about the next possible crew base?

I wasn't there but I heard they're not opening anything else soon.

PleaseComplete 06-21-2018 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by hawkman (Post 2617596)
Not sure if I was clear . . . the leave was already on the schedule. Total hours remaining about 50. Tried to SAP to swap a trip still on my schedule, but kept getting denied due to below min credit. Emailed Crew Scheduling but didn't really expect a response due to the meltdown.

I just got a denial about two hours ago on the last swap I put in last night. It was 15 hours later. Wondering if there will any help for FO's who got lost and didn't get an honest SAP. I know things were tough but have a problem trip I need to adjust. There appears to be several available trips that would work to swap. From one of the emails about the Captain SAP it appeared that there might be a chance of flexibility.

You're options are Seniority Based trade window, First Come First Serve trade window and email scheduling supervisor and begging.

MaCrOs 06-22-2018 10:07 AM

JULY 2018

https://imgur.com/ClyVgti

https://i.imgur.com/ClyVgti.jpg

MarkVI 06-22-2018 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2619618)

Thanks as always!

ZeroTT 06-22-2018 12:11 PM

Where did all of the 6 month captains go from June?

https://i.imgur.com/Pgo7WPv.jpg

CLT CA from 3y to 2y. Wow!

FlyingSlowly 06-22-2018 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2619707)
Where did all of the 6 month captains go from June?

Must have got lost in the meltdown! :D

MaCrOs 06-22-2018 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2619707)
Where did all of the 6 month captains go from June?

https://i.imgur.com/Pgo7WPv.jpg

CLT CA from 3y to 2y. Wow!

Apparently there are some pilots that didn't get a R1 or R2 line (most junior CAs/FOs). Probably due to the issues that were going on they got lost in the cyberspace...
When (and if) they send out a revision I'll revise the grid.

Between system issues, and people switching around CLT/ORF/PHL things will change probably through the end of summer before they stabilize.

kiffer245 06-22-2018 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 2619707)
Where did all of the 6 month captains go from June?

https://i.imgur.com/Pgo7WPv.jpg

CLT CA from 3y to 2y. Wow!

A mistake..?

Otherwise :eek:

MaCrOs 06-22-2018 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by kiffer245 (Post 2619748)
A mistake..?

Otherwise :eek:

I double checked. Seems there are some pilots indeed (more then a few) who were not awarded anything for July and according to seniority list they are active.

irrelevant 06-22-2018 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2619761)
I double checked. Seems there are some pilots indeed (more then a few) who were not awarded anything for July and according to seniority list they are active.

Wow. How does one pull that off? Can I sign up?

TallFlyer 06-22-2018 10:21 PM

Base Updates
 

Originally Posted by MaCrOs (Post 2619761)
I double checked. Seems there are some pilots indeed (more then a few) who were not awarded anything for July and according to seniority list they are active.



How senior are they? Crew planning isn’t very good lately at marking flow pilots as PER.


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MaCrOs 06-23-2018 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by TallFlyer (Post 2619972)
How senior are they? Crew planning isn’t very good lately at marking flow pilots as PER.


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I just checked several most junior captains since the data was off from June. Those 4 pilots I checked were not on any award list. Hence the discrepancy.


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