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Old 08-29-2013 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Not the TA per se.

But they sent us bullet points:

- 5 more FT per class into AA or USAir (pilot goes to whichever carrier they wanted to fly for until SLI)
- 60 "Large Rjs"
- No Pay cuts

-B Scale
-Withhold Flows in Summer if they need to.
-No Seniority # into AA/USAir

Can't remember the other ones, but that was enough to me to call my reps and told them "Don't pass this to the pilots".
Ahhhh yes. The ALPA steaming platter of Bukkake disguised as victory.
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Old 08-29-2013 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BT13
So long as they stop the whipsaw...

www.stopthewhipsaw.com
If you want to "stop the whipsaw", then you need to stop the competition for flying within a brand....Only the mainline pilots can do that and they don't care as long as they get a pay raise.....
Not true. You just need your own union, one master seniority list, single contract. STW movement seems to be the perfect vehicle to get enough people together at enough regionals to pool your dough, but some legal aid and create a new labor union for just you guys. One list, one voice, no whipsaw.
Large task, but you've got the right tools and a good start already.

Heck, you scared ALPA enough to revitalize the old fee for departure committee from the ashes. That alone was a shot across their bow.

Keep going, you're off to a good start.
Good luck.
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Old 08-29-2013 | 12:56 PM
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anyone know when we'll find anything out? id assume the MEC must be meeting soon or have already met?
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Old 08-29-2013 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90
anyone know when we'll find anything out? id assume the MEC must be meeting soon or have already met?
The MEC met today is what I was told. Hopefully they will release some info to the pilots this week.
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Old 08-29-2013 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bradeku1008
The MEC met today is what I was told. Hopefully they will release some info to the pilots this week.
Well...that leaves tomorrow, lol
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Old 08-29-2013 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PeopleMover90
Well...that leaves tomorrow, lol
Anxious to take a pay cut to fly those aren't ya?
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Old 08-29-2013 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Anxious to take a pay cut to fly those aren't ya?
You got that right. I've never seen a group so anxious to give concessions to an airline posting massive quarterly profits.
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Old 08-29-2013 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
You got that right. I've never seen a group so anxious to give concessions to an airline posting massive quarterly profits.
I forgot how the same 3-4 people on an internet forum supposedly represent the whole pilot group. It's not even a hot topic anymore. Just the same 3-4 guys arguing with each other. And the 5-7 people from eagle and 2-3 people from PDT on a PSA thread cheering for the "stop the whipsaw" movement but secretly wish they get the airplane.

Why are you guys get mad at each other? We're not that important... And our strong personal opinions mean jack when it comes down to decisions that are being made upstairs. If Airways wanted eagle to accept concessions, eagle would've accepted concessions. Think hard about that one and see if I'm wrong. It seems like they want PSA to accept concessions. Which we will because they know exactly how much to offer to convince the 80% of PSA pilots to vote yes. I can see us merging with PDT and eagle dwindling down. I'm looking at this totally objectively, just smart business.
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Old 08-29-2013 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
Who cares who was offered what? If PSA pilots choose to vote for this deal, good for them. Companies compete for contracts. It doesn't matter if it's construction, defense, or airlines. This is a capitalist country (despite Obama's effort to turn us into commies) and its all business. You have to play your cards and hope your strategy wins the hand. If your plan ends up being the winner, and someone else's doesn't, then good for you and tough luck for them. It's just business.
I'm all for capitalism but you don't seem to have any understanding of true capitalism...Dance puppet, dance...
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Old 08-30-2013 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 200Driver
I'm all for capitalism but you don't seem to have any understanding of true capitalism...Dance puppet, dance...
Obahhmaah is gurna turk er gurrnnnssss, that commie!!!
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