I think if you have no flow through, or furlough protection you are shooting yourself in the foot especially if the 40 CRJ-900 options happen, or the 47 CRJ-700s come over. What have you got to lose? Sitting next to someone bitter and unhappy in the left seat while you rot away for 8 years as an FO, and will probably never upgrade as the fleet shrinks. Go take a cold shower, think about life when you get out, and then put on your big boy pants, and take a shot at an interview.

All the Eagle guys who left already for greener pastures, including for PSA, are wayyy ahead of you. Are you weak in training or the simulator? PSA has a great training curriculum, and provides plenty of opportunity for you to succeed. They are working with people to get them through if they happen to need it. I mean they aren't giving it away, you're going to bust if you aren't any good, but they want you to succeed.

PSA pays 75 hours guarantee and continuous per-diem in training. Eagle doesn't even do that.

 

Who told you eagle doesn't pay in training?

 

Envoy only pays like 60-65 hours guarantee. That's a good chunk less money, and the per-diem isn't continuous? I'd go look at your CBA, but I'd rather just go find this link for you...

PSA Airlines | Open Positions

... come on, fill it out Bzzt. You know you want to. Noone will care, it's all in your head. You'll be a captain in a couple years, or less. Have you heard the flows from Envoy to AA mainline have been slowed to 15 a month. Come on now...

 

Here is the quote from the Envoy American Eagle ALPA CBA

Section 4
New Hires

A. PAY AND PER DIEM
A new hire pilot will be paid for a minimum of sixty-four (64) hours of pay per month, plus per diem for sixteen (16) hours daily until completion of Initial Operating Experience. In the event that a new hire pilot works less than a full month, the guarantee will be prorated accordingly.

B. LODGING AND TRANSPORTATION The Company will provide, at no expense to the pilot, comfortable and adequate lodging through completion of initial training. At the Company’s discretion, new hire pilots may be housed two (2) per room during Basic Indoc and Ground School. After Basic Indoc and Ground School are completed, the Company will provide single occupancy rooms. The Company will also provide transportation between the lodging facility and the training facility.


I also found out lineholders only get 72 hours guarantee? At PSA it is 75 hours guarantee for lineholders and reservers. That 3 hours adds up to quite a bit of money over a year.

So if I was a 2nd year FO at PSA making $34/hr (which is the same at Envoy Eagle) and I had a high speed line, I would make $102/mo more just because of that.

 

Are you seriously going to start a "my regional is better than yours" debate?

You have the same owners and they are playing you against eachother.
Stop playing their game.

 

Wrong again. If thats the case, then AA also trimmed down their hiring.

You don't know what you are talking about son.

 

Mason. Haven't you noticed that's all that seems to happen on the PSA, Gojet and Mesa threads.

 

Your buddies on Eagle Lounge posted who you are, and what your story is. You're just bored, and looking for attention. You're wrong about a lot of things on here, even things you posted in the last day were completely 100% not true, but you're like a soothsayer to these guys going through bad times. Maybe you should stick to what you're really good at...

Ask your MEC. They should tell you the truth, but since that's now how they "feel" they may just lie to you because the ends justify the means.

Yeah man. Noone likes the truth do they?


Lastly this is just a message board. Get real.

 

Here we goooo agaaaaiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I already turned down a position at a regional which would have been far more advantageous for me than PSA, I'm here at Eagle til I quit the industry or make a step up to a career job. The flow you're referencing was a court arbitrated award, there is not much wiggle room there. The company will continue to send 20 a month because that is what the court mandated they do.

As far as upgrades are concerned, considering the lack of qualified applicants at all regionals a new hire at any regional today will have a tough time upgrading. You need bodies to fill seats beneath you to get that upgrade, it's not happening. Something has to give in this industry, jumping to somewhere you think will be a quick upgrade is foolish in this climate. Good luck with PSA, like I said in a different thread awhile back, I have no ill will for anyone anymore. Your weak attempts at trolling everyone are slightly annoying, but if thats your thing, go for it.