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03-18-2015, 01:10 PM

#2541

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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot

Hmm...so it's 10 pilots per plane, not 10 crews?

PSA is as of now overstaffed with F/Os then...

I would say yes and no. First, they have to be somehow overstaff to be able to guarantee the operation of extra planes which are coming. Second, I say yes to your question because mathematically based on pilot vs the planes on property, the ration is is high. I also say no because you need to account for those pilots not available yet to start .For instance, I know someone that is waiting for IOE since the first class in DEC, add all those new hires after that and management pilot, will significantly reduce the ration. Also, as the company continues to grow, the amount of management pilot will increase, therefore, opening spaces for line pilots.

03-18-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus

10 crews per plane would be 20 pilots per plane. That's 3000 pilots. Definitely not.

Looks like there are around 200+ FO's that are in training or waiting for ioe. We are not overstaffed as they are junior manning pilots often.

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How many more pilots do you think will need to be hired before hiring starts to slow down?

03-18-2015, 01:16 PM

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^^ that's what I need to know! I still need a few more multi hrs to apply. Hoping I can get on board soon!

03-18-2015, 01:16 PM

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How many more pilots do you think will need to be hired before hiring starts to slow down?

Slow down? Hiring probably won't slow down for years as nearly all regionals are hiring due to retirements at the mainline carriers.

03-18-2015, 01:19 PM

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How many more pilots do you think will need to be hired before hiring starts to slow down?

Until they hit their target and then hire for attrition.

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03-18-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

Slow down? Hiring probably won't slow down for years as nearly all regionals are hiring due to retirements at the mainline carriers.

I didn't mean coming to a screeching halt, but I am just wondering how much longer these 60 per month classes are going to continue, before they are clearly overstaffed compared to the airplanes the currently have on property.

03-18-2015, 01:25 PM

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Take the average pilots hired per month (60) and minus 20 pilot attrition average per month to get 40. Add that to the current pilot group which was listed above and then you will find the rough answer

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03-18-2015, 01:40 PM

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I wonder how long upgrades are going to take for the April class. Understanding and know the attrition rate makes me think just over a year to a year and a half..

03-18-2015, 01:46 PM

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I wonder how long upgrades are going to take for the April class. Understanding and know the attrition rate makes me think just over a year to a year and a half..

I'd say two years. 4 months of training and the rest of the time is getting the 1000 121. Lots of FOs are being displaced due other pilots doing IOE making time building rather difficult unless you don't fly with a check airman. With SAP and all the open time it is easy to pair with a check airman and not knowing. Not to mention reserve will start to catch up and folks will sit reserve for a few months.

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