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Old 03-28-2015 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
No you do not get paid continuous per diem when they send you back home. Once you get online flying and until you get Relocation days, then you do.


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So the from the moment you start IOE until you get your relocation days, you should get 24/7 per diem?
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Old 03-28-2015 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
How do you figure that?


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Sadly, it's correct. Quarterly pay adjustments (blended rate) stop when the fleet size reaches 89 airplanes. It's in our contract.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
When was your DOH? Wow, are they running 6 months behind now?

Well, enjoy the paid vacation in the meantime!
I was in the Feb. 16th class. Just got back home on thursday. Rumor is, our class kinda got screwed over for training (kinda) 3.5 weeks until oral, after oral, 60 days until SIM training, after SIM, 2 months until IOE start.

The reason is because PSA is short on check airman and once you complete your type, the pilot has 120 days to get 100 hours. So thats why they are postponing it.

On a good note, we do get a huge paid vacation, and there is talk about planning on our class going back to dayton for a mandatory "re-train/brush up." It just kinda sucks cause we won't be able to upgrade for a while!

Don't quote me on any of this, this is just a rumor. But it came from a check airman. (which I believe there are only 45 right now?)
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Old 03-28-2015 | 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler253
I was in the Feb. 16th class. Just got back home on thursday. Rumor is, our class kinda got screwed over for training (kinda) 3.5 weeks until oral, after oral, 60 days until SIM training, after SIM, 2 months until IOE start.

The reason is because PSA is short on check airman and once you complete your type, the pilot has 120 days to get 100 hours. So thats why they are postponing it.

On a good note, we do get a huge paid vacation, and there is talk about planning on our class going back to dayton for a mandatory "re-train/brush up." It just kinda sucks cause we won't be able to upgrade for a while!

Don't quote me on any of this, this is just a rumor. But it came from a check airman. (which I believe there are only 45 right now?)
There are people that were in the October classes that haven't done IOE yet. This is not a new thing.

I took my check ride before you started class, and will not go to IOE for a few more weeks.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler253
I was in the Feb. 16th class. Just got back home on thursday. Rumor is, our class kinda got screwed over for training (kinda) 3.5 weeks until oral, after oral, 60 days until SIM training, after SIM, 2 months until IOE start.

The reason is because PSA is short on check airman and once you complete your type, the pilot has 120 days to get 100 hours. So thats why they are postponing it.

On a good note, we do get a huge paid vacation, and there is talk about planning on our class going back to dayton for a mandatory "re-train/brush up." It just kinda sucks cause we won't be able to upgrade for a while!

Don't quote me on any of this, this is just a rumor. But it came from a check airman. (which I believe there are only 45 right now?)
Lol... It's been that way here, that's nothing new. They need to get more check airmen finished up and I believe they are in the process of doing that over the next couple months. I just finished sims and I have a week wait for differences ground, a couple months off before differences sim (that's the rumor anyways) then IOE. Enjoy the time off.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler253
I was in the Feb. 16th class. Just got back home on thursday. Rumor is, our class kinda got screwed over for training (kinda) 3.5 weeks until oral, after oral, 60 days until SIM training, after SIM, 2 months until IOE start.

The reason is because PSA is short on check airman and once you complete your type, the pilot has 120 days to get 100 hours. So thats why they are postponing it.

On a good note, we do get a huge paid vacation, and there is talk about planning on our class going back to dayton for a mandatory "re-train/brush up." It just kinda sucks cause we won't be able to upgrade for a while!

Don't quote me on any of this, this is just a rumor. But it came from a check airman. (which I believe there are only 45 right now?)
This is pretty darn dysfunctional. They're biting more than they can chew but I can see how they had to do it so they could secure more planes. I hope they add more check airmen - they must have 400 captains at least...
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Old 03-28-2015 | 08:06 AM
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The 900 TA that was signed had the "flow" in seniority order. They made working at a regional a job, not a career. Scott Kirby was very specific in that he didn't want the regionals to become a final resting place.
So we are seeing with the new pay rates, a 2nd year f/o at mainline is greater than the top of the line captain at PSA.
They don't want senior Captains. Yet they need DE's and LCA and sim instructors. This is the C pay scale that mainline wanted so badly. Just no one is sticking around to take it. Every single f/o and captain that I speak to has apps out. What does that say when Jet blue or Spirit/ delta/fedex/ups...calls?
Don't complain about not flying. When you get on line you will have plenty of time away from home. For now let's hope the situation gets worse so they are forced to give people seniority numbers to keep the senior pilots from leaving.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Slim11
Sadly, it's correct. Quarterly pay adjustments (blended rate) stop when the fleet size reaches 89 airplanes. It's in our contract.
This is not correct.

The blended rate increases will never stop. The 89 aircraft thing refers to the raise we get for every "large RJ" that is added to PSA's operating certificate. The blended rate is separate and is a ratio of 200 vs 7/9. It will continue to increase for each 7/9 we get.
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Old 03-28-2015 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
This is not correct.

The blended rate increases will never stop. The 89 aircraft thing refers to the raise we get for every "large RJ" that is added to PSA's operating certificate. The blended rate is separate and is a ratio of 200 vs 7/9. It will continue to increase for each 7/9 we get.
If it's even possible, has anyone calculated out based on the projected delivery schedule what the final pay rates might be?
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Old 03-28-2015 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
If it's even possible, has anyone calculated out based on the projected delivery schedule what the final pay rates might be?
Just enough to buy you a few addtl. KFC bucket dinners at the end of the month for you and your family!
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