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Old 10-19-2014 | 05:21 PM
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Regardless of the airline you go to...major, regional or somewhere in between...your date of hire affects your seniority. The date you accept a job offer doesn't start your seniority. You need a good reason to delay your start date. Military orders, your wedding or a death in the family are good reasons to delay something like this.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyHernandez
Hey guys so I just got emailed for an interview with PSA for the end of the month. This would be my first regional Job and looks like a good move for my career advancement. If I were offered the job I was planning on accepting a class date for sometime in January. Would requesting a class date that far in advance have a significant effect on my seniority and possible upgrade time?
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A friend of mine who interviewed last week couldn't get a class sooner than the December 4th class. So if you want a January class that will work out well, because the December class is probably filling up fast as well. But yes delaying by one month will put you around 70-80 numbers lower on the seniority list.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 09:11 PM
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Wow Joliet finally....agree with your post. Now if only people would stop posting that they've been accepted to PSA or any regional for that matter and are excited about going to training. Nothing will change until people stop filling these classes.
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Old 10-19-2014 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by citxls
Wow Joliet finally....agree with your post. Now if only people would stop posting that they've been accepted to PSA or any regional for that matter and are excited about going to training. Nothing will change until people stop filling these classes.
"Or any regional"

Do you work at eagle? I made 23k my first year at eagle. I find it pretty hypocritical when I hear one regional pilot talk down on another regional pilot, as if we all didn't accept a job that paid Us complete crap the first year. Especially when a currently employed regional pilot is telling prospective regional pilots not to do the same thing they did
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Old 10-19-2014 | 09:53 PM
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"Or any regional"

Do you work at eagle? I made 23k my first year at eagle. I find it pretty hypocritical when I hear one regional pilot talk down on another regional pilot, as if we all didn't accept a job that paid Us complete crap the first year. Especially when a currently employed regional pilot is telling prospective regional pilots not to do the same thing they did
Agreed, the record keeps going around and around. No difference will ever be made online. Get involved with management and change things instead of the bickering that infests these forums. Enjoy what you do.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
John, an honest question looking for an honest answer; would you say there is an anti PSA feeling permeating AA? I.e. Do you think working for Psa would hinder ones career when it comes to being hired at a major? Compared to say RAH, compass, Gojets, or PDT?
Just saw this. I would say that most AA pilots aware of the situation of the eagle pilots holding the line, and many aware that PSA didn't. I'm not sure I would characterize it as "anti-PSA", but their vote certainly doesn't impress anyone at APA who understands. The career question is impossible to answer. The pilots don't do the hiring, the company does. I wouldn't say that the current situation exists whereby having PSA on your resume could impact your career negatively, but no one can see the future.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 03:12 PM
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And that is where the lack of information is prevelant. Eagle had how many chances at a deal with US Airways?
At what point did you think that Airways wans't going back with a 6th offer?
I agree that PSA shouldn't have accepted the first offer to them. But Eagle clearly didn't want anything that Airways threw their way.
PSA had voted before and held the line and we got screwed before. Back in 2007 and 2011 we voted for 900's and the airplanes went to Mesa. We were always the pawns. What did PSA get for holding the line in 07 and 11?
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Old 10-20-2014 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
"Or any regional"

Do you work at eagle? I made 23k my first year at eagle. I find it pretty hypocritical when I hear one regional pilot talk down on another regional pilot, as if we all didn't accept a job that paid Us complete crap the first year. Especially when a currently employed regional pilot is telling prospective regional pilots not to do the same thing they did
There is no "better" regional, and yes I've been at eagle awhile. My statement implied it was a mistake on my part coming to this regional life and believe it or not, most students are seeing this and not continuing flight training. I know 5+ student pilots who made it through commercial who have decided not to pursue Regional's based on the information presented. We've stooped to a new low with the almost industry standard of 12/4 with a promise of someday becoming a "Real airline pilot". What happens when we say No to a blatant insult to our profession? They pit 3 ALPA carriers against one another and whipsaw. They whipsaw 3 ALPA carriers and it makes me sick. Read that one Lee Moak thanks for nothing.

Some argue that it doesn't matter and that all we have to do is suck it up for a few years then move on with Flow. FYI in a few years NONE of us will need flow, so why is this becoming managements tool to allow cheaper poverty level wages? Quite frankly I'm ****ed every time I hear we're not cost effective. PSA/Piedmont will always be cheaper, it's just math even with Eagle having a 12/4. Do we have Captain's on step 18? Yes. Did all of them plan on making a career at Eagle? Hell no.

We're all slowly playing into Jerry Glass's and DUI Doug's hand and I'm not arguing with any of my co-workers because I know that's what management wants. They're trying to beat us down, and already from what I'm hearing is there's a group out there trying to go beg for management to come back. All we can do is apply elsewhere and hope that future airline pilots see this mess and not come to the Regional side of the aviation industry.

-cit
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Old 10-20-2014 | 06:14 PM
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Did they send you guys flows and limitations before class, or just limitations? I remember in the interview she said both would be sent. I only received the limitations.
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Old 10-20-2014 | 06:41 PM
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I got only limitations. When your class starts?
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