The Useful PSA Thread
05-10-2015 | 04:54 PM
#4012
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Look, I don't think you want to get into a PSA-Envoy future prospects match. Mostly because, without personally knowing you, I have a hunch that this kind of populous propaganda is beneath you. Secondly, AAG has plans that are in place for both operators, let's not go ahead and jump to conclusions that "wheels are coming off of things". I actually agreed with the first part of your post regarding union communications to an extent, but it's time to practice what you preach - you can't talk about "standing together" than in the same breath belittle another wholly ownes career progression and general viability to further your cause or help the envoy recruiting effort or what not.
Let's not go there
Cujo is a union rep for envoy. What I get from his posts is disdain for the PSA reps. I mean it's bad enough to bend over and take it in the pooper when everyone else said no, bad enough to laugh in our faces when it was announced you would be getting our CRJs.....but now you cannot staff our CRJS without your Union trying to FORCE our pilots over with them? Yeah. I understand why he would be upset enough to share this in a public venue. I am not impressed with the morals your scum union doesn't have.
05-10-2015 | 04:55 PM
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From: Semi-Retired...
Who's the pot calling the kettles black? PSA has ****ed down the backs of every envoy pilot for some time.
Let's not go there
Cujo is a union rep for envoy. What I get from his posts is disdain for the PSA reps. I mean it's bad enough to bend over and take it in the popper when everyone else said no, bad enough to laugh in our faces when it was announced you would be getting our CRJs.....but now you cannot staff our CRJS without your Union trying to FORCE our pilots over with them? Yeah. I understand why he would be upset enough to share this in a public venue. I am not impressed with the morals your scum union doesn't have.
Let's not go there
Cujo is a union rep for envoy. What I get from his posts is disdain for the PSA reps. I mean it's bad enough to bend over and take it in the popper when everyone else said no, bad enough to laugh in our faces when it was announced you would be getting our CRJs.....but now you cannot staff our CRJS without your Union trying to FORCE our pilots over with them? Yeah. I understand why he would be upset enough to share this in a public venue. I am not impressed with the morals your scum union doesn't have.
Their pilots deserve to know it too.
05-10-2015 | 05:02 PM
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You realize PSA doesnt have the CRJ's on property so why are we assuming they can or can't staff them? Unless of course you are preemptively trying to align yourself on the "right" side of some imaginary line in the sand without any factual evidence to support the accusation. I will be willing to have the conversation regarding pilot poaching when something comes to light (if it ever does).
05-10-2015 | 05:07 PM
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You realize PSA doesnt have the CRJ's on property so why are we assuming they can or can't staff them? Unless of course you are preemptively trying to align yourself on the "right" side of some imaginary line in the sand without any factual evidence to support the accusation. I will be willing to have the conversation regarding pilot poaching when something comes to light (if it ever does).
If they weren't concerned about staffing they wouldn't be trying to steal pilots with planes. Why do you think they're concerned about staffing? Ask them that too.
When you're done, come back and review my posts for accuracy again.
05-10-2015 | 05:13 PM
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Guess what, even if it happened they still might never know. As a union rep, I would expect that you know a thing or two about maneuvering and selective communications. Maybe they did try something despicable, but you sound like someone who is just now discovering the concept of politics. I am sure the envoy MEC was was not stopping every step of the way to think how their collective decisions can help better other pilot groups' conditions.
05-10-2015 | 05:19 PM
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Guess what, even if it happened they still might never know. As a union rep, I would expect that you know a thing or two about maneuvering and selective communications. Maybe they did try something despicable, but you sound like someone who is just now discovering the concept of politics. I am sure the envoy MEC was was not stopping every step of the way to think how their collective decisions can help better other pilot groups' conditions.
05-10-2015 | 05:19 PM
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Ask your rep. You're a PSA guy right? Call and ask. It isn't that hard to verify what I'm telling you.
If they weren't concerned about staffing they wouldn't be trying to steal pilots with planes. Why do you think they're concerned about staffing? Ask them that too.
When you're done, come back and review my posts for accuracy again.
If they weren't concerned about staffing they wouldn't be trying to steal pilots with planes. Why do you think they're concerned about staffing? Ask them that too.
When you're done, come back and review my posts for accuracy again.
For the record, even though I was skeptical about your scenario being true and reluctant to even see it as a possibility, you very well might be correct and I will revisit this thread if proven to be wrong. The main argument I had with you was the approach you took in trying to portray it as detrimental to the PSA group, which is at best disingenuous.
05-10-2015 | 05:23 PM
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Right, the point is that PSA pilots should be outraged that their MEC tried to pull a stunt to protect its self interests at the cost of another carrier which has yet to be substantiated, corroborated, or verified anywhere other than a reliable web board.
05-10-2015 | 05:24 PM
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Guess what, even if it happened they still might never know. As a union rep, I would expect that you know a thing or two about maneuvering and selective communications. Maybe they did try something despicable, but you sound like someone who is just now discovering the concept of politics. I am sure the envoy MEC was was not stopping every step of the way to think how their collective decisions can help better other pilot groups' conditions.
Call your reps and ask about the letter. It exists.
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