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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:01 AM
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Someone should post the First page of that letter..... Its not Peaches and cream at PSA...


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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:03 AM
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And there we have it....Where is the negative again?

"If American is insistent that the frames move."

I understand that upgrading at Eagle would be better for Eagle pilots. Unfortunately that is simply not going to happen. American being "insistent" prevents Eagle upgrades.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
Thanks for posting that PC, I will certainly let my union know how I feel about that letter.
How do you feel about it?
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:07 AM
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L-Eagle should demand DOH. Nothing else.

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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:16 AM
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I still don't see the scandal you hinted at here. What I see is:

1. The PSA MEC Chairman doesn't have a good understanding of unintended consequences, and

2. The Envoy MEC is missing a chance to really screw the PSA pilots by forcing us into a quasi-merger.

It is unusual to see a MEC pulling on the fragmentation clause rather than pushing it, but however ill-advised this is, it's not evil.

I can't say that I'm terribly happy about my representation though.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:16 AM
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by skydrol500
Not terribly happy about my representation
Should have the first page soon...I think it hilarious that your union has done nothing but back pedal all morning and still won't share the letter themselves.

Oh and this made its debut on Eagle social media today. I would be surprised if you got anything but spit on from this point. It looks like a lot of ****ed off gear swingers and they are even more upset with how the PSA pilots are acting like it is no big deal on here.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skydrol500 View Post
blah blah blah PSA is great Blu blah blah

Didn't say that at all. Said it was a dumb move on the PSA MECs part that PSA pilots could live to regret if the Envoy MEC wanted to exploit it.

Just not evil.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
L-Eagle should demand DOH. Nothing else.

Goodluck!
I'm fine with DOH if the L Eagle pilot gets an authorized letter from ALPA that he/she voted no all 3 times and access to their APC, Eaglenet account that's been active for the past few years showing no immature post towards PSA.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
It is very malicious and underhanded in nature to try and get ALPA national to support something that is less beneficial for one group than the other. Very malicious.
I think it is about time we expose some of Crusader's hypocrisy: It is malicious for PSA's union to do something that is less beneficial for his group (even though there was no concrete proof in the letter that there is any intention to inflict harm upon envoy pilots, but for the sake of the argument lets say there was), BUT - in his capacity as Cujo's lapdog PilotCrusader is allowed to continue a malicious campaign of scare tactics, spin, and manipulation to maliciously, relentlessly, and directly damage the hiring effort at PSA in-order to get some slight delay in aircraft transfer to help benefit HIS airlines shrinking schedule. I would argue that can also be seen as "less beneficial for another ALPA carrier" - PSA. Even Crusader will admit his deep seeded hatred toward another carrier but than expects their union to follow the moral compass that he himself dropped some miles back down the road.

I will refer you to one important excerpt that is representative of PilotCrusaders flip flops, hypocrisy and double standards: (the context is Crusader has turned a 180 and now understands the pragmatic urgency of a yes vote at Envoy on the last TA. Morals be damned, it now effects PilotCrusader himself; PSA is not allowed to have self preservation guide their decisions, but once again - anything is allowed for Crusader)

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
I know right? Grrrr it makes me so angry? I want them to pay!!!!

Grow up kiddo. Business is business. You aren't even on the right thought process right now.
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