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Old 05-13-2015 | 12:29 PM
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I think I'll draft a letter to ALPA National. Since PSA MEC has indicated a staffing issue is brewing, and since Envoy is currently overstaffed, we would be happy to operate their airplanes here. Pilots will upgrade faster, and have real flow to a mainline career. See, we're just trying to help our PSA brothers too.....
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Old 05-13-2015 | 12:30 PM
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That's not a letter! That's a cry for help!
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Old 05-13-2015 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
Got it. Thanks for confirming what we all know.

Easy there, there is still some distance to cover between two groups that have been looking out for their self interest, and singing koombaya together by the fire. We will find out what the intent of the letter was.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 01:15 PM
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Wow! I haven't read through this whole thread but what an olive branch extended from PSA to Envoy pilots!! The section quoted seems to indicate a merger of seniority numbers could be possible when the pilots come over. You knew the furlough was coming at Envoy but this looks like a really good deal! This gesture should finally put to rest any further hatred between the groups. Way to go PSA Alpa! Not sure about what could be done regarding flows though?? Has that been discussed?
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Old 05-13-2015 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Wow! I haven't read through this whole thread but what an olive branch extended from PSA to Envoy pilots!! The section quoted seems to indicate a merger of seniority numbers could be possible when the pilots come over. You knew the furlough was coming at Envoy but this looks like a really good deal! This gesture should finally put to rest any further hatred between the groups. Way to go PSA Alpa! Not sure about what could be done regarding flows though?? Has that been discussed?
This is an actual, serious question:

That was a joke, right? There's no way you are serious, right...?
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Old 05-13-2015 | 01:40 PM
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sounds to me like PSA doesn't like the deal they signed with the devil. Well, thanks for playing kids. Now live with it. Merger of the two won't happen, just like furloughs at envoy won't happen. PSA must REALLY be drunk on their own kool aid.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 01:58 PM
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Keep in mind there's a reason there's only one signature on it, a signature of someone on his way out the door to Delta. It would seem that most of our ALPA guys were unaware of this until it hit social media. It's now been posted on our interal ALPA board and being discussed, although Mark himself has not added to that conversation yet.

Something else to add: I've been told that after the Town Hall meeting where our recruiting Captain had some questions for Parker that Parker himself, in addition to some of his VPs there, had a nice long chat with that Captain regarding life at PSA. I don't know the substance of that conversation, nor have I spoken to that Captain herself, but the "flow" negoiation is rapidly approaching. We'll see.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 02:15 PM
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Heard from rep, they didn't know about it apparently?
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Old 05-13-2015 | 02:28 PM
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God I hope envoy furloughs 1 guy/gal. Increased flow and what's that preferential hiring to Alpa majors for pilot groups in trouble?
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Old 05-13-2015 | 02:36 PM
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God I hope envoy furloughs 1 guy/gal. Increased flow and what's that preferential hiring to Alpa majors for pilot groups in trouble?
Distress Alpa carrier.
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