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Old 05-12-2015 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joek
Your probably right, we can't staff the planes. What we should've done was talk to your MEC first. Apparently that didn't happen. How do your guys feel about coming over with the planes?
They would rather the planes stay here longer, allowing them to upgrade sooner HERE, at $80k/yr instead of $63k and on reserve forever. You'll get your planes when you are ready for them.
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Old 05-12-2015 | 05:58 PM
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Doh.......
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Old 05-12-2015 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
They would rather the planes stay here longer, allowing them to upgrade sooner HERE, at $80k/yr instead of $63k and on reserve forever. You'll get your planes when you are ready for them.
Except they are coming anyway... Starting this month. Look at RAH's daily cancellations. I think the PSA/Envoy 700 flying is small potatoes right now for AAG.
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Old 05-12-2015 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
They would rather the planes stay here longer, allowing them to upgrade sooner HERE, at $80k/yr instead of $63k and on reserve forever. You'll get your planes when you are ready for them.
Okay then stay, especially if they'll flow way faster there then at PSA. When will those guys see upgrade at Envoy?
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Old 05-12-2015 | 06:09 PM
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[QUOTE=PilotCrusader;1879262]
Originally Posted by skydrol500

You ever get the idea we are letting you dig your own grave? Ask your union to see the actual letter.
What grave? This is all spun nonsense.

I was on the MEC at BrandX. I don't need to see the letter. I've written plenty myself. I'm part of the over-50 prior 121 crowd just here for the health insurance. I don't care about flow or whether mainline knows about us or not. I have been through crap like this before. I'm not impressed.

What I DO know is that you're scaring the children over nothing. And that makes this thread less than USEFUL for me.
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Old 05-12-2015 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Except they are coming anyway... Starting this month. Look at RAH's daily cancellations. I think the PSA/Envoy 700 flying is small potatoes right now for AAG.
Well enjoy them! I'd like to see you blow yourselves up now rather than later. It helps us out much more. Again, don't you think your union sees this? And where do you think your union got the Intel from?
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Old 05-12-2015 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Well enjoy them! I'd like to see you blow yourselves up now rather than later. It helps us out much more.

Crusader, I struggle to comprehend how you are able to go from rational discussion to the above quoted text in such quick succession. I understood your earlier reasonable interpretation that a tentative street captain offer might hinder the "bridge" you mentioned might help cushion Envoys shrinking period. Why did you not make that angle known to us initially, instead of helping Cujo attempt to spread even more hatred and manipulation with ridiculous warnings about PSA fo's being stuck in the right seat due to this letter and insults like the above? You are worried about your own carrier's future, which is understandable, but it would help if you guys practice some effective and sincere communication with the PSA pilot group regarding your issues instead of getting everyone worked up with mud slinging, deceit, and public displays of disdain towards the PSA pilots themselves.
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Old 05-12-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DOGIII
Crusader, I struggle to comprehend how you are able to go from rational discussion to the above quoted text in such quick succession. I understood your earlier reasonable interpretation that a tentative street captain offer might hinder the "bridge" you mentioned might help cushion Envoys shrinking period. Why did you not make that angle known to us initially, instead of helping Cujo attempt to spread even more hatred and manipulation with ridiculous warnings about PSA fo's being stuck in the right seat due to this letter and insults like the above? You are worried about your own carrier's future, which is understandable, but it would help if you guys practice some effective and sincere communication with the PSA pilot group regarding your issues instead of getting everyone worked up with mud slinging, deceit, and public displays of disdain towards the PSA pilots themselves.
The deceit is on your MEC. What they did is indeed underhanded, without any communication to us, and just plain wrong. Their silence and unwillingness to share the letter leaves the silence deafening. Yes. I have disdain for PSA in general. I was starting to let go. Arguments that the people that voted yes and stabbed the industry in the back initially were starting to wear on me. Then this. This and the way many of you have behaved regarding it. Yeah. It has certainly gotten my blood flowing again.
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Old 05-12-2015 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Except they are coming anyway... Starting this month. Look at RAH's daily cancellations. I think the PSA/Envoy 700 flying is small potatoes right now for AAG.
They are transferring 1 aircraft this month, and, unofficially, the original transfer schedule is no longer accurate.
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Old 05-12-2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Some of my FOs are saying they will gladly come over to PSA as street Captains now.
So just like that they lost their "morals"???

Ha what an industry we have here.
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