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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:19 AM
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What is SSP?
It's a stupid interview and no guarantee job at all with American. We've already had two or three guys that got turned down after interviewing. Current SSP IS A F$&@ing joke.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:41 AM
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What happened to the CRJ's that were supposed to be transfer from envoy to you guys?


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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
What happened to the CRJ's that were supposed to be transfer from envoy to you guys?


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I have commuted to PHL to go to work on 3 of them over the last couple of months, and the guys tell me that they have quite a few on property. I think the Captain said 7 are on the line, and about 9 have been transferred so far? From what I have heard at the big offices in Dallas, the biggest delay is the "C" check that they all need to go through before they are transferred.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:47 AM
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What happened to the CRJ's that were supposed to be transfer from envoy to you guys?


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Nothing, they are still coming... The delivery is stopped as planned to begin taking delivery of factory new 900s. When the delivery of the 900s is done, then we get the 700s delivered again.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:49 AM
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It's a stupid interview and no guarantee job at all with American. We've already had two or three guys that got turned down after interviewing. Current SSP IS A F$&@ing joke.
Agreed. If they want to fix staffing, fix the SSP. If they want to retain pilots, fix the SSP. Next year will be a whole new game and I don't think management is coming out swinging. As usual, they are stepping over dollars to pick up dimes.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Nothing, they are still coming... The delivery is stopped as planned to begin taking delivery of factory new 900s. When the delivery of the 900s is done, then we get the 700s delivered again.
So, why Envoy management says that they will be in property until the end of 2018? How's the aspen program coming together?
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Old 08-29-2015 | 06:11 AM
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So, why Envoy management says that they will be in property until the end of 2018? How's the aspen program coming together?
Heard the same. In fact didn't they just awarded like 40 CRJ Captain slots at envoy?



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Old 08-29-2015 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
So, why Envoy management says that they will be in property until the end of 2018? How's the aspen program coming together?
I don't give s@&t about the Aspen program. I'm more concerned with fixing our POS SSP. Like ditching the interview and going to a straight flow and increasing the number from a laughable 4 to 10 or more.... Basically fixing the mess the pervious MEC left behind for us.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 06:23 AM
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Heard the same. In fact didn't they just awarded like 40 CRJ Captain slots at envoy?



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I don't know about any of that. I did hear that the 40 CA slots was a preliminary number and wasn't a final award? So who knows. I've also heard that AAG is going to exercise our remaining 900 options so that could extend the delivery of the 700s out even further.
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Old 08-29-2015 | 06:25 AM
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So, why Envoy management says that they will be in property until the end of 2018? How's the aspen program coming together?
Why does everyone keep talking about Aspen? Just because it was Envoy's flying doesn't mean it's getting awarded to us just because we are getting the 700s AAG is transferring. We aren't the sole CRJ operator for AAG.

And each management team has an agenda. Ask yourself what is Envoy's biggest challenge right now? Pilot retention (among other things). How do you retain pilots? Take a stab at that one.
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