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Old 08-30-2015 | 07:07 PM
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This made me smile and I hope it stays like that You guys deserve nothing more then that, although history has proven you would gladly accept even more concessions for an actual flow.
Troll on troll.
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Old 08-30-2015 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Theonemarine
Management here is going to cripple this place. It's inept and they're making PSA into a career killer while openly telling us that we're "just regional pilots" and don't deserve better. Yes, that was said to our hotel committee. Meanwhile they want to trap you here until you hit your 12 year cap so they can cover their poor management style of always being behind the curve. We thought maybe new management would be beneficial. They're as bad if not worse than the prior regime with the added fun of actively trying to kill careers.

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Well if that's the case, they are in for a rude surprise. This industry is changing faster than they seem to want to keep up.
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Old 08-31-2015 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Troll on troll.
Truth hurts sometimes.
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Old 08-31-2015 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
This made me smile and I hope it stays like that You guys deserve nothing more then that, although history has proven you would gladly accept even more concessions for an actual flow.
"History has proven?" We voted once for a concessionary deal. Quite the pattern.

How many for Eagle?
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Old 08-31-2015 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Theonemarine
Management here is going to cripple this place. It's inept and they're making PSA into a career killer while openly telling us that we're "just regional pilots" and don't deserve better. Yes, that was said to our hotel committee. Meanwhile they want to trap you here until you hit your 12 year cap so they can cover their poor management style of always being behind the curve. We thought maybe new management would be beneficial. They're as bad if not worse than the prior regime with the added fun of actively trying to kill careers.

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Would you like me to wipe your tears away? Boo-hoo
I really have no sympathy for you
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Old 08-31-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
"History has proven?" We voted once for a concessionary deal. Quite the pattern.

How many for Eagle?
Not true. You guys (probably not you or most there now) but PSA knifed Piedmont and Allegheny in 2004...

That being said, you guys are going to get a flow and probably won't be giving anything up for it
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Old 08-31-2015 | 07:16 AM
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Including bonuses, average first year pay is $31/hr. PSA offers no bonus and their first year pay is $24/hr.

Currently about 15/month are leaving(including FO attrition). No more than 25/month are coming in, with a net gain of 10. That's enough for only one additional airframe per month.

How will the company attract enough pilots with it's below industry first year pay?

The only regional with lower first year pay is Mesa.
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Old 08-31-2015 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gold
The only regional with lower first year pay is Mesa.
Sure about that? This list seems fairly accurate aside from Skywest.

ALPA lists 10 airlines with lowest starting pay for pilots | | Dallas Morning News
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Old 08-31-2015 | 07:24 AM
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PSA is failing? Who woulda seen it coming. LOL. They see me trollin', they hatinn...
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Old 08-31-2015 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by penaltybox
Sure about that? This list seems fairly accurate aside from Skywest.

ALPA lists 10 airlines with lowest starting pay for pilots | | Dallas Morning News
That list is not accurate, I did my own comparison.

I did not include lakes or silver.

I included bonuses in my comparison which the data in that article is over a year old and does not. A $10,000 bonus ups your pay rate by about $8/hr.
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