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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:40 AM
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This thread should be renamed 'Wheels falling off at PSA'.

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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DOGIII
I think it is about time we expose some of Crusader's hypocrisy: It is malicious for PSA's union to do something that is less beneficial for his group (even though there was no concrete proof in the letter that there is any intention to inflict harm upon envoy pilots, but for the sake of the argument lets say there was), BUT - in his capacity as Cujo's lapdog PilotCrusader is allowed to continue a malicious campaign of scare tactics, spin, and manipulation to maliciously, relentlessly, and directly damage the hiring effort at PSA in-order to get some slight delay in aircraft transfer to help benefit HIS airlines shrinking schedule. I would argue that can also be seen as "less beneficial for another ALPA carrier" - PSA. Even Crusader will admit his deep seeded hatred toward another carrier but than expects their union to follow the moral compass that he himself dropped some miles back down the road.

I will refer you to one important excerpt that is representative of PilotCrusaders flip flops, hypocrisy and double standards: (the context is Crusader has turned a 180 and now understands the pragmatic urgency of a yes vote at Envoy on the last TA. Morals be damned, it now effects PilotCrusader himself; PSA is not allowed to have self preservation guide their decisions, but once again - anything is allowed for Crusader)
Wow. Discredit the source. Straight from the Jerry GlASS playbook. Who would go sift through 6 months of posts to pull something like this out? Mmmhmmmm.

First off kiddo nothing affects me. My name, as it suggests, is to help my fellow pilots. That is why I am so vocal. I'm ou of here sooner than later and bothIf can affect us that much to matter.

My "flip flop", as you put it, is from me realizing that we were not going to win the battle and a continued no vote by our pilots only helped scum like you. Voting yes was the better decision in the end. I wish we had done it sooner, so I definitely made a mistake there.

Keep being a tool and go back and dig for mor exciting PilotCrusader soundbytes taken out of context. Lol.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
This thread should be renamed 'Wheels falling off at PSA'.

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I'm sorry, where were you saying the wheels were falling off at?

Envoy Air most likely to cancel your flight, with Hawaiian and Alaska least likely | | Dallas Morning News

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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
How do you feel about it?
I feel that letter should not have been written. We still have plenty of eligible pilots that can upgrade whether it be current FOs or new hires in training. If some upgrade spots go unfilled they should just hire street captains and let whoever wants to come over do so instead of bringing Envoy pilots with the airplanes. If staffing gets too tight they could delay some of the 700s or park some 200s, but that will be management's decision and not ours'. I say change the SSP to a flow and increase the numbers so that the only way to AA is through one of the wholly owned carriers and the staffing issue will go away.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
I feel that letter should not have been written. We still have plenty of eligible pilots that can upgrade whether it be current FOs or new hires in training. If some upgrade spots go unfilled they should just hire street captains and let whoever wants to come over do so instead of bringing Envoy pilots with the airplanes. If staffing gets too tight they could delay some of the 700s or park some 200s, but that will be management's decision and not ours'. I say change the SSP to a flow and increase the numbers so that the only way to AA is through one of the wholly owned carriers and the staffing issue will go away.
I suppose the MEC is fine with pilots from Envoy coming over to PSA as captains and going above him and others on the seniority list and he's ready to deal with the back lash from the pilot group.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Oh and this made its debut on Eagle social media today. I would be surprised if you got anything but spit on from this point. It looks like a lot of ****ed off gear swingers and they are even more upset with how the PSA pilots are acting like it is no big deal on here.
It really is no big deal because it is a weak, crappy idea that was DOA. The proper response would have been to question the PSA MEC Chairman's sanity rather than present this as an evil plot. The fact that PSA management can have this much influence over our representatives disturbs me.

Otherwise, it doesn't matter to me at all. Be as pi**ed as you want. I would much rather grow organically than transplant cancer. I'm not name calling but splicing parts of another pilot group with their culture and expectations within ours is a bad move with no good outcome.

You are happier over there and I am happy to let you stay there. If the aircraft have to stay there too because of poor planning, whether at the AAG or PSA level, so be it.

The PSA MEC should have offered preferential hiring and left it at that.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Wow. Discredit the source. Straight from the Jerry GlASS playbook. Who would go sift through 6 months of posts to pull something like this out? Mmmhmmmm.

First off kiddo nothing affects me. My name, as it suggests, is to help my fellow pilots. That is why I am so vocal. I'm ou of here sooner than later and bothIf can affect us that much to matter.

My "flip flop", as you put it, is from me realizing that we were not going to win the battle and a continued no vote by our pilots only helped scum like you. Voting yes was the better decision in the end. I wish we had done it sooner, so I definitely made a mistake there.

Keep being a tool and go back and dig for mor exciting PilotCrusader soundbytes taken out of context. Lol.
Definition of Jerry Glass according to pilotcrusader: Anyone who uses any tactic at all to disagree with me.

Find another way to slander people. You're starting to sound like... Jerry Glass

*See what I did there? Yea, you see it. Oh I know, I sound like I'm taking one out of the old Jerry Glass playbook.
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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:49 AM
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Old 05-13-2015 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader

First off kiddo nothing affects me. My name, as it suggests, is to help my fellow pilots. That is why I am so vocal. I'm ou of here sooner than later and bothIf can affect us that much to matter.

My "flip flop", as you put it, is from me realizing that we were not going to win the battle and a continued no vote by our pilots only helped scum like you. Voting yes was the better decision in the end. I wish we had done it sooner, so I definitely made a mistake there.
Wrong on both accounts. You whole heartedly believed the "they can't staff" mantra, and rolled the dice amidst the mob chants. Once you realized that AAG was not bluffing and that other carriers such as PSA saw the writing on the wall before you - your last cushioned stretch at Envoy was in jeopardy and you decided to do whats right for you as did others at the carrier and voted yes. I do not fault you or your fellow pilots for doing these things. However, claims that "nothing affects you" and that you and your screen name are on a campaign to help others are both equally disingenuous.

It is sad to see an aviator as seasoned as yourself resort to insults such as "scum" to vent frustration and disagreement. Your general lack of decorum is unbecoming of a man of your age and weakens the actual content of your messages, because they serve as a deflection and a gimmick.
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