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Old 05-06-2015 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
An airline that is upgrading captains in the 60-99% range means those with 0 121 time will see longer upgrades than going to a regional with upgrades occurring in the 55% range. Factor in the 50 seat aircraft getting parked at PSA and the situation isn't as good as it appears for those with 0 121 time.
If the majors weren't hiring like they are, you might be correct. The guys that are upgrading fast are leaving just as fast. These prior 121 guys are getting hired by the LCC's and majors right out of class. You as forgetting several very important factors. Sorry...not convinced.
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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:03 PM
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If the majors weren't hiring like they are, you might be correct. The guys that are upgrading fast are leaving just as fast. These prior 121 guys are getting hired by the LCC's and majors right out of class. You as forgetting several very important factors. Sorry...not convinced.
You have some really big blinders on or are intentionally deceiving people.

When pilots upgrade below you because you don't have the time, that means your upgrade length increases. The longer this occurs after you are hired, it exponentially makes it worse. This is happening at Compass right now as well and probably Mesa. PSA's crutch is that the 50 seat aircraft will be parked and the new hires are probably not factoring that in their 'upgrade' projections
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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
You have some really big blinders on or are intentionally deceiving people.

When pilots upgrade below you because you don't have the time, that means your upgrade length increases. The longer this occurs after you are hired, it exponentially makes it worse. This is happening at Compass right now as well and probably Mesa. PSA's crutch is that the 50 seat aircraft will be parked and the new hires are probably not factoring that in their 'upgrade' projections
meh.... You keep saying the same thing but it doesn't mean what you think.
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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
meh.... You keep saying the same thing but it doesn't mean what you think.
He's speaking industry experience, but you don't want to hear it.
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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:19 PM
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He's speaking industry experience, but you don't want to hear it.
Random industry experience that doesn't relate is hardly something worth listening to.

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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
Random industry experience that doesn't relate is hardly something worth listening to.

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You are coming off as a PSA recruiter who is losing his ability to convince new hires of a reality that is already in motion. No way a line pilot has blinders as big as you put off.
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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:31 PM
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How does upgrade time increase? If and when you get the 1000hrs needed, you go to upgrade, and those that jumped ahead of you are then booted back if you are higher in seniority than them. Now, if upgrades stop all together, I could see your point, but that doesn't look to be the case any time soon
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Old 05-06-2015 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by badtransam97
How does upgrade time increase? If and when you get the 1000hrs needed, you go to upgrade, and those that jumped ahead of you are then booted back if you are higher in seniority than them. Now, if upgrades stop all together, I could see your point, but that doesn't look to be the case any time soon
He has no point. He is trolling several threads at the same time for fun.

This is the problem with APC. The moderators are impotent and refuse to just kick trolls out. It serves little value and more members are wannabe pilots than actual pilots. It is frustrating, yet we all come back for more. There is no way that the nonsense on here would happen on any professional type forum.
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Old 05-06-2015 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by badtransam97
How does upgrade time increase? If and when you get the 1000hrs needed, you go to upgrade, and those that jumped ahead of you are then booted back if you are higher in seniority than them. Now, if upgrades stop all together, I could see your point, but that doesn't look to be the case any time soon
You don't have the upgrade minimums when they come to you. Those junior to you with the time upgrade. When the upgrades reach the bottom of the list, that is even worse for those with little 121 time, since that effectively pushes your upgrade threshold from 50-55% to 35-40%. That means you will have to rise to 35-40% on the list before you can upgrade. Because 10-20% of the pilots below you have taken spots already.

Understand now?

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He has no point. He is trolling several threads at the same time for fun.

This is the problem with APC. The moderators are impotent and refuse to just kick trolls out. It serves little value and more members are wannabe pilots than actual pilots. It is frustrating, yet we all come back for more. There is no way that the nonsense on here would happen on any professional type forum.
The moderators don't kick people out for stating the realities of the industry. They do kick out people who revert to name calling and attacks like you have done.

You are making your cause worse.
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Old 05-07-2015 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
You don't have the upgrade minimums when they come to you. Those junior to you with the time upgrade. When the upgrades reach the bottom of the list, that is even worse for those with little 121 time, since that effectively pushes your upgrade threshold from 50-55% to 35-40%. That means you will have to rise to 35-40% on the list before you can upgrade. Because 10-20% of the pilots below you have taken spots already.

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I dont quite follow how you get your percentages. Can you break that down?
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