The Useful PSA Thread
05-09-2015, 05:58 AM
#3821
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
6 months from DOH to IOE is the only thing that is scary about this whole situation. There is no way anyone will get a solid foundation in their training footprint when you're forced to take 4-6 week breaks in between each phase. Instead of going full on and getting on the jet right after, you're stagnating your training and your learning phases - that's not good and creates a bunch of holes in the training and knowledge.
People are spending all this time on the sims going through emergencies and flows and all the intensity that comes with working towards your LOFT and LOE, and then you wait for months to get called for IOE?
How current are you really going to be to get on to the real jet now?
PSA basically took a bite bigger than they could have chewed and I don't even want to imagine how crazy this backlog is going to get. The intensive hiring didn't really start until the beginning of this year, and they still have Nov-Dec hires waiting for IOE?
Popcorn time.
People are spending all this time on the sims going through emergencies and flows and all the intensity that comes with working towards your LOFT and LOE, and then you wait for months to get called for IOE?
How current are you really going to be to get on to the real jet now?
PSA basically took a bite bigger than they could have chewed and I don't even want to imagine how crazy this backlog is going to get. The intensive hiring didn't really start until the beginning of this year, and they still have Nov-Dec hires waiting for IOE?
Popcorn time.
05-09-2015, 06:21 AM
#3822
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
Any PSA recruiter care to comment on a possible ASE program. Word on the line is envoy will keep the 700's, they are the only AAG regional with an approved ASE training program and engineering data (SKW does, but UA has a termination clause that restricts SKW from providing feed for any carrier outside UA)... PSA POI stated PSA will not be approved for ASE flying due to relative inexperience of crews. Any validity to this?
05-09-2015, 06:27 AM
#3823
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
Any PSA recruiter care to comment on a possible ASE program. Word on the line is envoy will keep the 700's, they are the only AAG regional with an approved ASE training program and engineering data (SKW does, but UA has a termination clause that restricts SKW from providing feed for any carrier outside UA)... PSA POI stated PSA will not be approved for ASE flying due to relative inexperience of crews. Any validity to this?
05-09-2015, 06:50 AM
#3824
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
I would be willing to bet that if we were to compare all of the new hire classes across the regionals by average total flight hours, PSA would win right now by a large margin. The average guy coming in the door right now has over 5000 hours at the regionals.
In case you can't do the math, to support your claim, one 1500 hour person would need someone with 8500 hours to make an average of 5000 hours between the two. Math. Because.
To even further support your claim of 5000 hours "at the regionals", it would really have to be more than that.
Take it down and admit you might have just got caught making up a statistic.
05-09-2015, 07:03 AM
#3826
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Position: CRJ FO
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My class makeup was about 50% prior 121, of which the majority had 4 to 5 + years at a regional prior to PSA. Another 30% were either mil or prior 135, and the rest were more or less the 1500 hour types. So I'd say the average experience level for PSA new hires favors more experienced over less experienced.
05-09-2015, 07:07 AM
#3827
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Position: CRJ FO
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Oh and yes, the FAA has a serious issue with letting PSA fly into ASE right now. When you fly into mountainous terrain, that requires you to go missed often, it is not for rookies.
05-09-2015, 07:10 AM
#3828
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Oh and yes, the FAA has a serious issue with letting PSA fly into ASE right now. When you fly into mountainous terrain, that requires you to go missed often, it is not for rookies.
05-09-2015, 07:19 AM
#3830
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
Any PSA recruiter care to comment on a possible ASE program. Word on the line is envoy will keep the 700's, they are the only AAG regional with an approved ASE training program and engineering data (SKW does, but UA has a termination clause that restricts SKW from providing feed for any carrier outside UA)... PSA POI stated PSA will not be approved for ASE flying due to relative inexperience of crews. Any validity to this?
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