I know how it is being presented at National. Do you?

It's not a stop the whipsaw idea, it's your MEC trying for better positioning because you'll never get better flow if you are having a staffing problem.

We can staff the extra flying, most including PSA, currently can't.

There's nothing magnanimous in their actions. In fact, it's low and underhanded. Section 45 starts off saying the purpose of the section is for mergers or shutdowns. We aren't merging with you, nor are we shutting down. Taking 1 subsection out of context for the personal gain of your pilots at the expense of another group of pilots is counter to any and all principles of trade unionism.

Your leadership is a disgrace, and your pilot group apathetic for allowing them to remain in office.

 

Too bad you didn't when it would've mattered.

 

Neither did Envoy. They caved in on the third vote as well.

They like to blame PSA, like a bunch of grade school kids that place someone else when they spill their milk.

It is really pathetic. We get it, you were trying foolishly to "do something" and "hold the line". The truth is that you were tilting at windmills. All you are doing now is to drive the pilots apart. It is immature and counterproductive. Grow up and move on. AAG beat you...beat you badly, and you are trying to blame someone else for it.

 

I usually don't post much but I follow what's going on here and what is said. This is my first post since I started with PSA. First of all, how can we get these spoiled, "entitlement minded" Envoy kids off our tread so we can continue the discussion of what's going on with our company? I personally, don't give a crap of what Envoy's pilots think and it doesn't really matter. Its not up to us, the pilots, we have no saying when it comes to corporate decisions. As one of many, many ex Comair pilots at PSA, I have been in the Envoy pilot's situation and I know how frustrating it is when the flying and the aircraft are going away but to go so low to call pilots at other airlines names and to be dishonest....well, that just tell me there's a complete lack of understanding and professionalism. I joined PSA of my own, free will and I don't apologize to anyone for my decision of having a job so I can feed my family and spend less time commuting across the globe, even if it is with "the scumbag bottom feeder" as some misguided pilots want to call us. So, to all PSA pilots on here, keep your heads high, and completely disregard what other pilots think. Don't let them ruin your day. PSA will never be the best place to be in the industry, no regional will, but right now we are still in a pretty good place for a quick career progression. Take advantage of that, focus on doing your job and soon you will be at a better place. Remember, the regional airline industry is a rat race, a race to the bottom and for those who are not prepared to accept the terms of that, they are in the wrong business.

 

Wish you could read our PSA ALPA forums. Many of us are questioning on *** our MEC leader is doing.

 

Well for starters you can create your own forum where only PSA haters aren't allowed(I imagine the population will be low).

And yes PSA guys! Don't worry about what other people think of you! You got yours right!

Every time a new one comes on here, the worse it gets.m

If you are going to continue to post I have two words for you: Spelling and Grammar.

 

What are the unsafe hiring protocols mentioned in osas mec letter?

 

Lol, you crack me up. I expected that response. Maybe I'm not the best in spelling and grammar but I will not apologize for that either. Especially not to someone like you who are calling my friends and fellow coworkers for scum.... Think I have a better idea, since your argument and language is not appreciated here, why don't you go back to your own thread and cry there. You will definately get a lot more support than you get here. Btw, I don't support that MEC letter either and that is the last thing I will waste my time on an issue that should be a non issue

 

So the PSA MEC sends a letter floating the idea that Envoy pilots be welcomed to transfer to PSA along with the 700's and Envoy pilots become outraged and indignant.

I can't help but think that if the PSA MEC had sent a letter floating the idea that Envoy pilots would NOT be welcomed to transfer to PSA, along with the 700's that Envoy pilots would become outraged and indignant.

You can't win with these guys. They have a permanent and incurable case of the red pooper.

But history tells the real story. Both PSA and Envoy voted "no" to concessions in exchange for new jets twice,........ and both times, those new jets went to other carriers. When faced with the real threat that their airline(s) would be shuttered if they voted "no" a third time,...... both PSA and Envoy pilots took the deal,........ in order to save their jobs. The only difference was the $12,000 bribe accepted by the Envoy pilots.

 

The Envoy guys are just trying to be bullies. They work for a company that has treated them like crap for years and the only thing that makes them feel better about themselves is to put others down.

Every time they call PSA pilots names, they are really crying out to be loved. PC, it is ok...I'll give you a hug.

My new motto is "Have you hugged an Envoy pilot today?"