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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Oh and yes, the FAA has a serious issue with letting PSA fly into ASE right now. When you fly into mountainous terrain, that requires you to go missed often, it is not for rookies.
I mean, mountain flying isn't that much different than normal flying... I'd say 30% of my experience is in mountainous terrain (Rockies, Tetons, Sierra Nevadas, and every range on the east coast) and other than the bumps being bumpier, shooting approaches is shooting approaches.
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Oh and yes, the FAA has a serious issue with letting PSA fly into ASE right now. When you fly into mountainous terrain, that requires you to go missed often, it is not for rookies.
What's the cutoff for "rookies"?
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Theonemarine
What's the cutoff for "rookies"?
Anything below his total time.
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Montanaflying
Any PSA recruiter care to comment on a possible ASE program. Word on the line is envoy will keep the 700's, they are the only AAG regional with an approved ASE training program and engineering data (SKW does, but UA has a termination clause that restricts SKW from providing feed for any carrier outside UA)... PSA POI stated PSA will not be approved for ASE flying due to relative inexperience of crews. Any validity to this?
Maybe, it sounds good. I haven't seen any drift down info in PSA manuals, but the last 700's aren't scheduled to leave until after 16/17 season. It would seem much more practical to delay the xfer with more 900 options
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I mean, mountain flying isn't that much different than normal flying... I'd say 30% of my experience is in mountainous terrain (Rockies, Tetons, Sierra Nevadas, and every range on the east coast) and other than the bumps being bumpier, shooting approaches is shooting approaches.
the problem generally isn't shooting an approach. The problem is generally trying to navigate a very complex navigation/climb profile should you lose an engine on takeoff or missed approach at high density altitudes. And shooting full approaches with no radar vectors to final (you'd be surprised how hard that is for some 121 pilots….)
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
We also need to hire a couple classes of street captains or delay some of the 700's for a little bit to get caught up.
Unconfirmed rumor is the 700 transfers have been delayed until the late fall at the soonest.
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
You can't possibly be affiliated with PSA recruiting or management because if you are, you just broke company policy by engaging an employee in an extra-personal conversation in an unofficial channel where you allowed your personal emotions dictate a hostile attitude. Oops.
He's high up in Management......welcome to psa
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Anything below his total time.
I've told you before what happens when you make assumptions.
You look like a bigger moron than you already portray here.

More important than what I consider a "rookie" is what the FAA does. In this case, it is 100% true that the FAA has voiced concerns about letting PSA fly into Aspen due their collective lack of experience.
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
the problem generally isn't shooting an approach. The problem is generally trying to navigate a very complex navigation/climb profile should you lose an engine on takeoff or missed approach at high density altitudes. And shooting full approaches with no radar vectors to final (you'd be surprised how hard that is for some 121 pilots….)
This is exactly the issue. I would agree with Chris Reed about mountain flyng in general, to an extent. The issue here is that Aspen is a very unique animal, especially with a large RJ.
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Old 05-09-2015 | 07:28 AM
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I heard the 700's are going to Mesa. Good night quick upgrade. Sleep tight.
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