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03-19-2016, 06:26 AM
#1531
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 742
Originally Posted by YNWA1892
Word from some one that was there is that they would like up the flow but can't because we won't be able to staff the planes. CAs won't be getting retention bonuses because it doesn't make good business sense. The company will see if their bonus programs work and if not they will do what they need to do to attract new hires. Also Doug apparently made a point that he only cares about how cheap the wholly owns are and giving them more money won't make them cheap. Good thing we turned down those bonuses...
1) Is this the same Doug Parker who only about a week ago publically agreed with his mainline pilots that labor relations have become toxic and that the management must become more accommodating? And
2) I find it interesting that, in the past PSA management has floated an email or other communications touting (or "spinning") the wonderful and exciting news that was announced at these town hall meetings. This time??? NOT A WORD!! No pdf from Dion, no happy-shiny email from Hoke, no cheerleading from Scrobola, not even a tersely-worded comment from Kernan! NOTHING! It's like the entire event didn't happen. I find that very odd and out of character.
03-19-2016, 06:37 AM
#1532
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,220
Originally Posted by Slick111
Two thoughts:
1) Is this the same Doug Parker who only about a week ago publically agreed with his mainline pilots that labor relations have become toxic and that the management must become more accommodating? And
2) I find it interesting that, in the past PSA management has floated an email or other communications touting (or "spinning") the wonderful and exciting news that was announced at these town hall meetings. This time??? NOT A WORD!! No pdf from Dion, no happy-shiny email from Hoke, no cheerleading from Scrobola, not even a tersely-worded comment from Kernan! NOTHING! It's like the entire event didn't happen. I find that very odd and out of character.
1) Is this the same Doug Parker who only about a week ago publically agreed with his mainline pilots that labor relations have become toxic and that the management must become more accommodating? And
2) I find it interesting that, in the past PSA management has floated an email or other communications touting (or "spinning") the wonderful and exciting news that was announced at these town hall meetings. This time??? NOT A WORD!! No pdf from Dion, no happy-shiny email from Hoke, no cheerleading from Scrobola, not even a tersely-worded comment from Kernan! NOTHING! It's like the entire event didn't happen. I find that very odd and out of character.
03-19-2016, 06:40 AM
#1533
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Joined APC: May 2012
Position: 206
Posts: 573
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Yes, but circumstances change. Given a choice between possibly being shut down and having to go look for another job or starting over at another regional's first year pay and seniority, and taking a concessionary contract, you may be surprised what they do. I don't know that this will happen obviously, I'm just speculating. AAGs thirst for the cheapest feed possible in the face of what are becoming overwhelming market forces is nothing short of astounding to me. No wonder their operation is in such horrible shape and labor relations are bad all over.
Air Wisconsin MEC has already firmly stated it's position. They will not take concessions and will stand firm, even with the shutdown threat.
03-19-2016, 07:27 AM
#1535
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 4,599
Originally Posted by T1000
It seems to me that mainline is getting the same "treatment". Ask anyone other thats actually been there for ten years or more.
03-19-2016, 10:16 AM
#1536
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 304
Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
The only person ALPA is going to play is you. 1.95% every month, like clock work. By next year it will become really enjoyable to pay that 1.95% when you watch another ALPA carrier like Mesa or Air Wisonsin start to take your planes since PSA is barely keeping up with attrition let alone hiring the 40 a month that you guys need.
03-19-2016, 11:18 AM
#1537
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Yes, but circumstances change. Given a choice between possibly being shut down and having to go look for another job or starting over at another regional's first year pay and seniority, and taking a concessionary contract, you may be surprised what they do. I don't know that this will happen obviously, I'm just speculating. AAGs thirst for the cheapest feed possible in the face of what are becoming overwhelming market forces is nothing short of astounding to me. No wonder their operation is in such horrible shape and labor relations are bad all over.
03-19-2016, 11:34 AM
#1538
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 200
Originally Posted by Realtalk
You're showing how little you know about regional airlines. Air Wisconsin had a TA that would have improved qol. We said no. If you think that anyone at AWAC cares about the place shutting down, think again. You realize there are other options out there besides "starting" over at another regional. Guys at AWAC could give two rips if they threatened us with shutting down.
03-19-2016, 12:09 PM
#1540
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 304
Originally Posted by Realtalk
You're showing how little you know about regional airlines. Air Wisconsin had a TA that would have improved qol. We said no. If you think that anyone at AWAC cares about the place shutting down, think again. You realize there are other options out there besides "starting" over at another regional. Guys at AWAC could give two rips if they threatened us with shutting down.
I think the days of pilots taking any concessions are over.
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