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Old 02-02-2016 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rokking566
Do you think AA will merge any of their regionals and which ones?
Eventually 100% of the AA regional feed will be done by the 3 wholly owned carriers, all of them will have about 150 a/c (so only 450 AE RJs total). If you are a civilian pilot and are not at PSA, PDT, or Envoy it will be very tough to get hired at AA in the next decade. A merger will probably happen into one large regional but not for quite some time.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rokking566
Do you think that even if someone was hired in the next five years they would still flow to AA before 2030?

This is a 50/50 question. I go with yes.


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Old 02-02-2016 | 10:10 AM
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Predicting what happens next in the regionals is like predicting the winning numbers in the lottery! That's a fact...
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Old 02-02-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rokking566
Do you think that even if someone was hired in the next five years they would still flow to AA before 2030?
If hired today, PSA is projecting a 24 month upgrade and 6.2 years to flow to AA. This is using the contractual flow and current retention rate for Capt. and F/O's.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
If hired today, PSA is projecting a 24 month upgrade and 6.2 years to flow to AA. This is using the contractual flow and current retention rate for Capt. and F/O's.
Any idea of how many FO's were in the most recent class? I know that there were 4 in the one that started 2 weeks ago.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rokking566
It seems like DAL and UAL are slowly pulling aircraft from their regional counterparts and purchasing more mainline aircraft.
In 2015, American's mainline fleet size decreased while their total number of regional aircraft increased. Usairways had the largest percentage of regional aircraft to mainline and that management now runs AA. The AA fleet will shrink in 2016 also while United grows theirs. Not many regional aircraft are "scheduled" to leave the AA system in 2016 but a lot are being added. Good luck with that flow in 2016 with AA being stagnant seniority wise.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PSAJOBS
If hired today, PSA is projecting a 24 month upgrade and 6.2 years to flow to AA. This is using the contractual flow and current retention rate for Capt. and F/O's.
I'm not disagreeing with you but would you be nice enough to share your math on the 6.2 year flow? You do know it's only 5 per month right now? A lot has to happen for it to contractually increase to the cap of 8.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gold
In 2015, American's mainline fleet size decreased while their total number of regional aircraft increased. Usairways had the largest percentage of regional aircraft to mainline and that management now runs AA. The AA fleet will shrink in 2016 also while United grows theirs. Not many regional aircraft are "scheduled" to leave the AA system in 2016 but a lot are being added. Good luck with that flow in 2016 with AA being stagnant seniority wise.
AA will be flying more block hours just with less aircraft which still requires more pilots, that coupled with retirements and AA will be hiring every year going forward. If you don't believe the flow will work I assume you have your apps out to other airlines?
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Old 02-02-2016 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
AA will be flying more block hours just with less aircraft which still requires more pilots, that coupled with retirements and AA will be hiring every year going forward. If you don't believe the flow will work I assume you have your apps out to other airlines?
That's true, I forgot about the block hour increase. The new 738s and 319/321 can handle more hours in a day than those ragged out MD80s. I want the flow to work, just not putting all my stock in it. From what I hear from mainline usairways pilots, things are really senior and stagnate. I've heard the opposite at at United, but again that's all hearsay.
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Old 02-02-2016 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rokking566
With this info, it sounds like the flow is more like 10+ years at PSA.
Everyone's got their own prediction and number. Not saying one or the other is right or wrong. Keep in mind, it's all a prediction. If someone is telling you, you will flow in 6 years without adding a disclaimer, they are lying. You "may or may not flow" in six month "in my opinion" is a more fair statement.
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