When does the next bid chart come out? Curious what the Jan'17 chart looks like.

I completed IOE in the middle of one month, and held my first Round 1 the following month. Right time, right place, right base. Some of my classmates spent 3-4 months on reserve in CLT.

Round 1 Awards are already out, Round 2 will be in about a week. I'll get it published sometime after Christmas because I sure aint sitting down to do it ON Christmas.

I suppose I should clarify for the sake of the uninitiated.

We're looking for press releases after the originals in 2014. As you know, Parker and Isom talked about the halting of the transfers in the town hall meetings in early 2015. That would mean something in the last year saying that the transfers are resuming.

I didn't expect you to quote the old ones as I thought it was understood that those were no longer accurate. I suppose I underestimated your willingness to once again rewrite history.

Donny, you're out of your element. Let the grown ups talk.

That's your big press release that you want to go with?! Yikes. A bunch of vaguely worded statements and the boiler plate P.R. paragraph at the bottom.

Here's the bottom line: if we can staff them, the airplanes will come over. AAG is not going to maintain the infrastructure for a 35 aircraft fleet at another carrier when it already has 115 of the same type at another WO carrier.

So then the real question is can we staff them? Hiring is up, and I have a good source that says they're ramping up for larger upgrade classes early next year.

And all any of us in the peanut gallery can do is wait.

No worries! I wouldn't do it on Christmas either.

You do realize that the mere existence of an upgrade bid is not proof that the staffing size is increasing.

The more I hear it, the more this pitch sounds the same as Piedmont's. Everyone is saying, "Trust US, the pilots are coming HERE." When in reality neither one has anything more than hopes and dreams that they will grow to the projected size.

For years regionals have said, "We're going to hire 600 this year!". And recently they have consistently been falling short. You say you're hiring tons, but now the cat is out of the bag with that new thread that was just started in the regional forum. All of the new hire numbers are now available to anyone who bothers to look at the graphs. The charade is up.

You do realize that I'm the data guy at PSA, right? I see all the bids, all the seniority lists, all the attrition, all sliced and diced in myriad ways. In short, I have way more factual information about PSA than you than you.

At the same time, realize that my earlier post is full of conditional statements. IF we can staff, THEN the airplanes will come. I'm not hear to make promises and prognostications. I'm just pointing out that AAG has all of a sudden found it very important to have very good new hire FO compensation at its WO carriers, within a couple bucks of the best of the industry, if not the best, and I've got all the information I need about hiring.

Then enlighten everyone on how much PSA has been growing this year.