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Old 11-12-2020, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot View Post
Thousands of pilots took early retirements and many younger pilots that lost jobs have moved on never to return. If the flying public comes back in spring/summer of 2021 the tight market in 2018/19 will be a piece of cake compared to the need when numbers return to pre covid levels. It only took 3 years for new passenger records after 9/11.

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Old 11-12-2020, 07:58 AM
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Has anyone read the bogus article that there will be a shortage of 27000 pilots come 2021? Is this a conglomeration by the big flight schools to swarm poor saps into their schools?
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2021? Yeah right.
Im not sure how there can be a shortage of 27000 pilots when there are 5000 pilots on the streets in 2021.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot View Post
Thousands of pilots took early retirements and many younger pilots that lost jobs have moved on never to return. If the flying public comes back in spring/summer of 2021 the tight market in 2018/19 will be a piece of cake compared to the need when numbers return to pre covid levels. It only took 3 years for new passenger records after 9/11.
^^^^This guy gets it. That article was spot on. Again, thousands of pilots who had planned on working in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 more years have now taken early retirement options. 3 regional carriers flying in 2019 no longer exist. The vaccine will be available much earlier, possibly by year end to those with comorbidities and those at risk. Afterward, it will be widely distributed in the 2nd quarter of 2021. This, coupled with Covid fatigue in the population and the loosening of local, state, national and finally international restrictions will occur in the 2nd quarter of 2021 and will open up even further as the year progresses. I fully expect 80% of 2019 TSA numbers in July 2021 and holding steady with incremental increases. And American Airlines is poised to come out of this in mid 2021 and put the other legacies in the rear view with the plan they have been executing over the past several months.

To answer the original question. Yes, a WO is exactly where you want to be. See the example above about the 3 at risk carriers who no longer operate. Envoy offers the best of all worlds. You never have to worry about interviewing again. Why do you think all aspiring CFIs who have the proper creds go to a pipeline university? It's for an American Airlines career.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tommy2times View Post
Has anyone read the bogus article that there will be a shortage of 27000 pilots come 2021? Is this a conglomeration by the big flight schools to swarm poor saps into their schools?
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if it makes a difference, i'm pretty sure that article was talking world wide. Not just US pilots.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:49 AM
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As much as I hate to say it, China’s travel numbers are pretty much at a normal level, year over year. Most of those jobs will be in Asia, China in particular.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj View Post
^^^^This guy gets it. That article was spot on. Again, thousands of pilots who had planned on working in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 more years have now taken early retirement options. 3 regional carriers flying in 2019 no longer exist. The vaccine will be available much earlier, possibly by year end to those with comorbidities and those at risk. Afterward, it will be widely distributed in the 2nd quarter of 2021. This, coupled with Covid fatigue in the population and the loosening of local, state, national and finally international restrictions will occur in the 2nd quarter of 2021 and will open up even further as the year progresses. I fully expect 80% of 2019 TSA numbers in July 2021 and holding steady with incremental increases. And American Airlines is poised to come out of this in mid 2021 and put the other legacies in the rear view with the plan they have been executing over the past several months.

To answer the original question. Yes, a WO is exactly where you want to be. See the example above about the 3 at risk carriers who no longer operate. Envoy offers the best of all worlds. You never have to worry about interviewing again. Why do you think all aspiring CFIs who have the proper creds go to a pipeline university? It's for an American Airlines career.
Great...
Look who came out from under his rock.
The AA folks have been dying for you to come back on the forums as the resident idiot/punching bag.
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Old 11-12-2020, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj View Post
^^^^This guy gets it. That article was spot on. Again, thousands of pilots who had planned on working in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 more years have now taken early retirement options. 3 regional carriers flying in 2019 no longer exist. The vaccine will be available much earlier, possibly by year end to those with comorbidities and those at risk. Afterward, it will be widely distributed in the 2nd quarter of 2021. This, coupled with Covid fatigue in the population and the loosening of local, state, national and finally international restrictions will occur in the 2nd quarter of 2021 and will open up even further as the year progresses. I fully expect 80% of 2019 TSA numbers in July 2021 and holding steady with incremental increases. And American Airlines is poised to come out of this in mid 2021 and put the other legacies in the rear view with the plan they have been executing over the past several months.

To answer the original question. Yes, a WO is exactly where you want to be. See the example above about the 3 at risk carriers who no longer operate. Envoy offers the best of all worlds. You never have to worry about interviewing again. Why do you think all aspiring CFIs who have the proper creds go to a pipeline university? It's for an American Airlines career.
You should make a cameo in one of Swayne's videos.
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Old 11-12-2020, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj View Post
^^^^This guy gets it. That article was spot on. Again, thousands of pilots who had planned on working in the neighborhood of 3 to 5 more years have now taken early retirement options. 3 regional carriers flying in 2019 no longer exist. The vaccine will be available much earlier, possibly by year end to those with comorbidities and those at risk. Afterward, it will be widely distributed in the 2nd quarter of 2021. This, coupled with Covid fatigue in the population and the loosening of local, state, national and finally international restrictions will occur in the 2nd quarter of 2021 and will open up even further as the year progresses. I fully expect 80% of 2019 TSA numbers in July 2021 and holding steady with incremental increases. And American Airlines is poised to come out of this in mid 2021 and put the other legacies in the rear view with the plan they have been executing over the past several months.

To answer the original question. Yes, a WO is exactly where you want to be. See the example above about the 3 at risk carriers who no longer operate. Envoy offers the best of all worlds. You never have to worry about interviewing again. Why do you think all aspiring CFIs who have the proper creds go to a pipeline university? It's for an American Airlines career.
You have been watching the news lately right? Assuming Biden gets confirmed, his party is proposing a 4-6 week hard lockdown even with the vaccine on the horizon.
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Old 11-12-2020, 11:41 AM
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This has already gone on much more than people were saying back in February. It’s almost a constant that you have people saying everything’s going to turn around, it’s right around the corner. Then went around the corner gets here they move it again to a future date and do it all over. Maybe a vaccine changes things but that depends on how many people actually get it.
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Old 11-12-2020, 12:02 PM
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Looks like come Monday Chicago to go on lockdown, pilot shortage yeah okay.
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