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Old 03-05-2019 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
Honestly, Mesa might be your best bet. Not entirely sure what the wait time is (if any), but something to consider. PIC time is PIC time regardless of carrier.
Mesa has not filled a 175 upgrade class in the last several months just because not enough people bidding for it. If you don’t mind HORRIBLE reserve work rules, you can probably hold 175 CA very quickly assuming you have qualifying hours.
Old 03-05-2019 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cursesRedBaron
Really?
To whom?

I get it. It's a shiny new jet. It's pretty. Has fancy automatic systems.
But, sorry to break it to you - the world doesn't revolve around it.

I personally know of many pilots who are now at major airlines that were never typed in ANY jet before getting there....in fact, most of them flew only turboprops before moving on to the major.
And, amazingly enough - they got hired!
Wow, who knew?
More importantly, WMJE - 175 drivers have a special column in their logbook. Practically flying a Boeing!
Old 03-05-2019 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by backtoregionals
If you don’t mind HORRIBLE reserve work rules, you can probably hold 175 CA very quickly assuming you have qualifying hours.

For clarity, poster is referring to ENY having horrible reserve work rules not MESA. Mesabetter reserve work rules than ENY.
Old 03-05-2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
For clarity, poster is referring to ENY having horrible reserve work rules not MESA. Mesabetter reserve work rules than ENY.
What exactly is so bad about ENY reserve rules?
Old 03-05-2019 | 12:42 PM
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Why a PIC position?

Before the Atlas crash they only had 1 person show up for a class of 14. I understand they are desperate for pilots. They hired one I know of with around 2400 tt and less than 1000 turbine.
Old 03-05-2019 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
How about a Boeing 727-200 that weighs 170,000 lbs? Is that like a 200 or a 145?
You need to fly the 175 because you're currently flying a 727? Who even flies those anymore.
Old 03-05-2019 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah
Why a PIC position?

Before the Atlas crash they only had 1 person show up for a class of 14. I understand they are desperate for pilots. They hired one I know of with around 2400 tt and less than 1000 turbine.
Good. Maybe those guys will finally get a decent contract.

Oh, wait! - what was I thinking?!?
No they won't, it's Atlas....they'll just sue the pilot group - again.

Why would anyone want to go there?
Old 03-05-2019 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedish Blender
You need to fly the 175 because you're currently flying a 727? Who even flies those anymore.
No, that's what used to fly. It was a smart ass answer to a smart ass comment from a hater.
Old 03-05-2019 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
What exactly is so bad about ENY reserve rules?

I’m just one person with one view point. I don’t represent the pilot group. ALPA MEC has communicated to ENY pilots about the facts many times, I’m sure you have read his newsletters [MENTION=54707]dera[/MENTION]. You know the pilot group stance on Reserve rules.

Words are powerful, the poster I quoted used the word “horrible”, that is not a word I would use. Yet the facts remain. We are behind current industry standards. Other leading carriers you know their names. It is multiple carriers. They have negotiated with their company.

I will admit Reserve rules at ENY can overall seem great to the right person, but that is not the majority who commute like the rest of the industry!

No secret ENY is behind industry standards with “Eagle” work rules. A vaguely interpreted contract language by the company, while pilots file grievances believing they have been wronged, wanting to be made whole. This industry has changed.

We can focus on the facts, ENY Pilots took bankruptcy concessions and post bankruptcy concessions not to be Comair 2. While other carriers have advanced reserve and work rules ENY wants more concessions just to negotiate reserve rule. These are the facts.

We know Company views that there is no problem and ENY is going for great, but things can always be better for both parties.




Doug Parker CEO said it best “We have a business that’s been transformed, but the culture hasn’t been transformed, and that holds us back” according to what he told Fortune. He also said “It’s one thing to build trust with a group, but it’s completely different to regain trust when you’ve lost it,” says Parker. “We just have to do trustworthy things over and over and over again every day.”
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker
I’m just one person with one view point. I don’t represent the pilot group. ALPA MEC has communicated to ENY pilots about the facts many times, I’m sure you have read his newsletters [MENTION=54707]dera[/MENTION]. You know the pilot group stance on Reserve rules.

Words are powerful, the poster I quoted used the word “horrible”, that is not a word I would use. Yet the facts remain. We are behind current industry standards. Other leading carriers you know their names. It is multiple carriers. They have negotiated with their company.

I will admit Reserve rules at ENY can overall seem great to the right person, but that is not the majority who commute like the rest of the industry!

No secret ENY is behind industry standards with “Eagle” work rules. A vaguely interpreted contract language by the company, while pilots file grievances believing they have been wronged, wanting to be made whole. This industry has changed.

We can focus on the facts, ENY Pilots took bankruptcy concessions and post bankruptcy concessions not to be Comair 2. While other carriers have advanced reserve and work rules ENY wants more concessions just to negotiate reserve rule. These are the facts.

We know Company views that there is no problem and ENY is going for great, but things can always be better for both parties.




Doug Parker CEO said it best “We have a business that’s been transformed, but the culture hasn’t been transformed, and that holds us back” according to what he told Fortune. He also said “It’s one thing to build trust with a group, but it’s completely different to regain trust when you’ve lost it,” says Parker. “We just have to do trustworthy things over and over and over again every day.”
Kill the “flow” for a better contract. That unrealistic carrot is what’s holding the “eagles” back from the rest of the regionals.

You’ll also help regional pilot groups industry wide.
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