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Old 03-08-2019 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
There’s a financial reason to go mesa. When you upgrade the note on your initial bonus is forgiven and you have just a one year training note for Captain. You could leave after 14 months and be free when normally that initial bonus has a 2 year commitment.
Lol. As opposed to every other carrier without a training bond.
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Maybe in some cases - but the majors want 1000 TPIC over a type rating. Careful not to drink that “wing mounted turbine time” koolaid - it’s still an RJ no matter how shiny the jet is.
Has more to do with being a check airman than than a type rating.

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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Not really.

Just read a reply in another thread about many E175 CA's getting picked up by JetBlue and AA because its the same type rating as the E190. So I'd say it's definitely a more desirable type for some carriers.
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Old 03-08-2019 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Maybe in some cases - but the majors want 1000 TPIC over a type rating. Careful not to drink that “wing mounted turbine time” koolaid - it’s still an RJ no matter how shiny the jet is.
Well yeah, you still need the 1000 TPIC, but I think the 1000 TPIC in an E175 is more valuable than the same in a E145 or CRJ because the carriers I mentioned already fly them and you'd be typed already.
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Whatever you say. Go have fun...
Hey, I'm just telling you what I read. Take it for what it's worth.
Old 03-08-2019 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by meow1215
maybe in some cases - but the majors want 1000 tpic over a type rating. Careful not to drink that “wing mounted turbine time” koolaid - it’s still an rj no matter how shiny the jet is.
but it’s wing mounted!!! :d
Old 03-08-2019 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
There’s a financial reason to go mesa. When you upgrade the note on your initial bonus is forgiven and you have just a one year training note for Captain. You could leave after 14 months and be free when normally that initial bonus has a 2 year commitment.
Yeah but. consider this.

Big signing bonus + industry low pay is < or = (for the first year) a small or no signing bonus + higher pay.

After the first year, the pay gap is substantial.
Old 03-09-2019 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Well yeah, you still need the 1000 TPIC, but I think the 1000 TPIC in an E175 is more valuable than the same in a E145 or CRJ because the carriers I mentioned already fly them and you'd be typed already.
The majors do not care what type the TPIC came from, they care about you being a 121 captain and the responsibility that comes with.

As a matter of fact I could argue that a 200 captain has more experienced than a 175 captain, it’s definitely a bigger challenge. The airlines want someone who has decision making experience, knowing when not to go, dealing with the changing environment - airlines as a whole could care less about wing mounted turbine time.

Just because you are typed in an airplane doesn’t mean your not going through the same training program as everyone else at intial. I give you this, you know where the engine start switch is already and you might be easier to train systems and handling to. But that won’t be then difference between choosing you for the job over another candidate.

Hell you could be harder to train because you already do it “X” and the new airline wants it done “Y”.
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
The majors do not care what type the TPIC came from, they care about you being a 121 captain and the responsibility that comes with.

As a matter of fact I could argue that a 200 captain has more experienced than a 175 captain, it’s definitely a bigger challenge. The airlines want someone who has decision making experience, knowing when not to go, dealing with the changing environment - airlines as a whole could care less about wing mounted turbine time.

Just because you are typed in an airplane doesn’t mean your not going through the same training program as everyone else at intial. I give you this, you know where the engine start switch is already and you might be easier to train systems and handling to. But that won’t be then difference between choosing you for the job over another candidate.

Hell you could be harder to train because you already do it “X” and the new airline wants it done “Y”.
I agree.

Like I said, I was just repeating what someone said on another thread and it kind of made sense.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
Well yeah, you still need the 1000 TPIC, but I think the 1000 TPIC in an E175 is more valuable than the same in a E145 or CRJ because the carriers I mentioned already fly them and you'd be typed already.
I can't see how there is any real correlation that they are hiring guys simply because they flew the 175. It doesn't matter what you're typed in - everyone gets sent through Initial New Hire, whether you fly a C152 or a 175 before.

I guess you could probably argue they want a 175 guy because they already flew the airplane so they (maybe) have a marginally higher chance of passing training than someone that flew a CRJ or 145, but then again we are talking about legacy and major flight times here, where mostly everyone already probably has thousands of hours in jets anyway. I still think they would much rather value somebodies resume and background more than they would value a 175 type rating.
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